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Warlight changes big and small: 4/25/2014 18:54:21


szeweningen 
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I know that oficially uservoice is the place to do that, but frankly uservoice is not really that effective of a tool, especially since it's not that popular among warlight members. I have already made one thread like that so I'll repeat some stuff. In any case here is a list of changes warlight needs or will need in the future:

1) 16% luck ---> 0% luck

In community driven competetive scene of warlight 16% luck has been absent for years, since the only differences are hurting the game, missed 7vs4 attacks, successful 9 vs 7 attack etc. A very minor change, but obviously an improvement.

2) Implement TrueSkill/Elo and forget expiration periods in ladder. Real time ladder system is far superior to 1v1 and 2v2 ladder systems and cannot be exploited (unless someone uses multiple accounts which is a separate matter).

3) Give us a possibility to play team games on one account, that'd likely lower the number of alternate accounts used and would be very user friendly.

4) Different players' perspective in history (especially helpful in wargaminglive streams (if they'd still happen))

5) Official yearly event champions league style (the whole system I explained in different threads) with qualifications.

6) Warlight video tutorials. To wargaminglive community and warlight community, if I would get some volunteers to help set up custom scenarios, record and edit videos I'd be willing to make sth like that or at least start it. Video tutorials are much more comprehensive than a written one.

7) Tiebreakers in round robin tournaments:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sonneborn-Berger_score

8) Fizzer, please inform us beforehand what are you working on so you'd receive feedback much faster. Example, real-time ladder, ffa and autodistribution templates would be immediately rejected. I know the surprise value is sth, but it'd make things much more smooth.

9) Add more templates to real-time ladder :) Also for some reason some parts of the ladder are still not working, like best rank etc. I also noticed activity in the ladder dropped recently, that might be related to already mentioned in another thread community page.

10) 3v3 Europe ladder anyone? :)

11) Uhm, anyone wants to host streams for wargaminglive?

EDIT:

12) Let players on any ladder vote once during picking stage on whether or not they want to reshuffle the board, for example strat 1v1 with 3 1st turn bonuses is a rather terrible distribution to start with.

Edited 4/25/2014 19:54:07
Warlight changes big and small: 4/25/2014 18:59:23


Min34 
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6) Warlight video tutorials. To wargaminglive community and warlight community, if I would get some volunteers to help set up custom scenarios, record and edit videos I'd be willing to make sth like that or at least start it. Video tutorials are much more comprehensive than a written one.


Sarutobi has also been thinking about this. Talk to him. If you ever need help with scenarios or players, I will see what I can do.

11) Uhm, anyone wants to host streams for wargaminglive?


Do you need any programs to host?
Warlight changes big and small: 4/25/2014 19:05:55


Master Potato
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I'd actually be interested in doing number 6.
Warlight changes big and small: 4/25/2014 19:30:43


ChrisCMU 
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1) Been advocating for this for quite a while. %0 weighted still lets 3v2s fail. Why allow extreme attacks to happen still?

2) Yes, ladder rating system could use overhaul. Would be nice, just not hugely high on my priorities because I know it would take some work.

3) Like it. But it would have to be an option that is off by default in games, and also highlighted in settings.

7) Yes, tiebreakers would be nice

8) Agree again. A heads up will allow for feedback prior to roll out. Or even if you just discuss via mail with a group you trust.

9) Agree with RT template issue. I haven't played it in quite a while waiting for some more better ones.

10) Agree %100 again

The others I am not passionate about and did not comment on them.
Warlight changes big and small: 4/25/2014 19:33:16


Master Potato
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I think that the option of 3v2 fails adds another strategic element to the settings where the player has to pick how to plan his expansion in a way to minimize risk and grow as efficiently as possible. Letting anomalies like 7v4 8v5 fails is too much luck based imo but 3v2 fails fits with strat settings.
Warlight changes big and small: 4/25/2014 21:05:35


"DJidAnE" 
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2) Implement TrueSkill/Elo and forget expiration periods in ladder. Real time ladder system is far superior to 1v1 and 2v2 ladder systems and cannot be exploited (unless someone uses multiple accounts which is a separate matter).

3) Give us a possibility to play team games on one account, that'd likely lower the number of alternate accounts used and would be very user friendly.



for me, multiple account, and 2 or 3 player whit one account need to be ban!!!!
one time ban 10 days for be boot to all game, and second time ban for life!!!
Warlight changes big and small: 4/25/2014 21:24:12


125ch209 
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9) please add an option/popup to ask us if we want to drop out of the RT ladder at the end of each game. Being booted because we forget that we were still in the ladder is really annoying. also i don't think that a player who hasn't join a RT ladder game should be booted of the game, sometime it takes up to 15 min to get a game, and not everyone want to click on the refresh button every minute to if a game has started. So i think if someone is not joining a game after 5min, the game should be canceled and the guy not joining automatically leaves the ladder.

Edited 4/25/2014 21:26:24
Warlight changes big and small: 4/25/2014 21:33:49


Ⓖ. Ⓐrun 
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10) Online icon and flag nxt to player name (option for anonymity available). Please!
Warlight changes big and small: 4/25/2014 22:40:53

Fizzer 
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I appreciate all feedback! Most of these things should go on UV, but here's some comments on some of them:

16% luck ---> 0% luck

People are free to use whatever luck values they want. I assume you're aiming this at the ladders. The 1v1 and 2v2 ladders are overdue for a vote on things like this.

Implement TrueSkill/Elo and forget expiration periods in ladder. Real time ladder system is far superior to 1v1 and 2v2 ladder systems and cannot be exploited

I took a vote on this a while back and the players voted that they liked the current system. I don't agree it can't be exploited, it's just exploited in different ways.

please inform us beforehand what are you working on so you'd receive feedback much faster...I know the surprise value is sth, but it'd make things much more smooth.

Part of the reason I don't announce upcoming features is I want to keep the option of changing my mind. One of my pet peeves is game designers that announce a feature but then end up never delivering it (or deliver it differently than announced.) I'd rather be silent and surprise than to over promise and under deliver. There are legitimate reasons for changing plans. Sometimes the feature can't be delivered for reasons out of your control, or sometimes the feature ends up not working out as well as planned.

Add more templates to real-time ladder

The biggest problem with having too many templates is it makes it difficult for new players to join the ladder. Some players like to get used to every template before joining, and if there are a lot it could just dissuade them from joining in the first place.

Also for some reason some parts of the ladder are still not working, like best rank etc.

It doesn't make sense to enable Best Rank and Best Rating when the ladder is brand new. Otherwise the first person to get a rank would automatically get #1 forever, just because they were first. These things will be enabled in the next update.
Warlight changes big and small: 4/25/2014 23:03:51


Odin 
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Good ideas!

Special endorsement to #1 because it's easy to implement and #2 because it would end most discussions about ladder cheating. I remember discussing a possible system's details with sze about a year ago in another thread.

Also endorsement to #6 but it looks like it will be more of a community project than Fizzer's.
Warlight changes big and small: 4/25/2014 23:21:21


Blortis 
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A friend of mine had an idea I really liked so I'll pitch it to you guys. 1 v 1 guest mode. So two people can play from the same device. Practice mode only. It would be a good player recruitment tool. Offline mode with very basic options would be even cooler. Don't know if it's possible and maybe it would be more work than it's worth but I figured I would throw it out there.
Warlight changes big and small: 4/25/2014 23:44:21


ChrisCMU 
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Blortis you can do that now, just need more than one browser with separate accounts
Warlight changes big and small: 4/26/2014 00:04:25


Blortis 
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I was thinking for mobile not PC. It would be a good way to introduce the game to new players. People these days are bombarded with invites to crap games so they are reluctant to check things out. This way they could try the game before signing up or downloading the app. A very basic offline mode would be even nicer though. Kill time on long road trips and situations like that. Anyway it's just an idea.
Warlight changes big and small: 4/26/2014 00:44:59


Ⓖ. Ⓐrun 
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Could be added to single player; more like a board game set up. Where you can add/remove players or AIs and take turns to enter orders each turn.

Edited 4/26/2014 00:45:25
Warlight changes big and small: 4/26/2014 10:05:28


Green 
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I think everyone's waiting for an update to the tournaments, like filters and tie-breaks like that suggested by Sze
Warlight changes big and small: 4/26/2014 12:02:27


MysteryManBall
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WOAH!
Warlight changes big and small: 5/17/2014 05:46:33


szeweningen 
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I'd like to bump this thread since I have a small hunch. Considering Fizzer already mentioned a new update, but it has been a long time since the last one, my instinct tells me there are going to be some major changes soon. My guess is, that rt ladder will be updated and normal ladders ranking system will change. Past month with Pulsey and Pulsius has been an ongoing streak of stalling and I have faith that Fizzer is going to prepare a nice surprise for all of us. Also since new season will start in roughly 2 weeks, my bet is this will have happened in the next 7 days. Or at least I have hope for that :)
Warlight changes big and small: 5/17/2014 05:56:38

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I'd like to see team tournaments where you don't pick a team, you merely join, and before the first round teams are randomized for the entire tournament.
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