What is happening here? Why nobody told me about this? Why The World picked so bad? How much time there is for one move? Whose idea is option C? Why Jehovah is not retired? Where can I place my bet?

You guys..... So much.....difficult..... Over analyzing....... AHHHHHHH!!!!!

pick are so bad bc this option was the most voted

All the options seem suicidal. I agree with myhand about going full in Hong Kong.

I like LolWut's suggestion

"LolWuts" suggestion is number E. I highly disagree with it.

I like F, you should add it to the poll

I like option D but without attacking Hong Kong. We can wait one turn with checking China. If he really is in Tibet he might show up.

I said pick D :P

I like F here too though.

Here is how I would play in Odins shoes (given the fact I either have West China or East Africa):

First my general plan after the outcome of the picks:
Option A: Odin has West China:
Take Scandinavia in two turns, second turn attack East China. First turn I would take Cuba. The opponents knows that I know that they have South America so nothing to hide. Taking Cuba prevents me from getting into trouble if the opponent hits South America strong first turn.

Option B: Odin has East Afria:
Take East Africa in two turns. Still nothing to hide in Central America so take Cuba first turn.


Here is how your strategies will play out against me:
Strategy 'F' and in West China --> Try to dodge in China and still take Scandinavia. If dodging not possible then for the next two turns I have a bonus and you don't. This allows me to do bad stuff.

Strategy 'A' + 'B' and me in West China --> You should lose.
Strategy 'A' + 'B' and me not in West China --> Game open.
Strategy 'C' and me in West China --> Game open
Strategy 'C' and me not in West China --> You should lose.
Strategy 'D' and me in East Africa --> Since I can take East Africa without risking elimination from Central America I have the advantage.
Strategy 'D' and me in West China --> Since I have a bonus and you don't you either have to get lucky with eliminating me from one spot or you lost. Since I will eliminate you from one of the other spots though you should lose anyways.

Edit:
What I don't understand is why not to stick with (what I suppose is) the initial strategy by picks. Pick 5 was probably to get a safe backup if the other picks get messed up. Now suddenly the world realises that China isn't safe at all.

Edited 4/25/2014 09:26:13

I can't make a new poll, since so many people has voted already, and especially since myhand isnt part of the panel.

But i'll add it to the list of options. If you support F, please comment below. I will treat it as part of the poll anyway.

So far, we have 3 votes. Myhand, Hennns and Arun.

If you ask me, I think Odin is in China. Its been more than a day and he hasn't taken his turn, although i've talked to him during that period of time. If he's in Africa it shouldn't be a very hard turn for him. ;P

Edited 4/25/2014 06:10:40

Option F is weak. If he has china then we clear him there and he gets a bonus. IT takes us another 2 turns to get east china (that's turn FOUR before we get our first bonus) and we will never ever complete west china. If he has Africa then he gets to take scand almost for free. turn 3 he will get 9 income to our 5 and will use it to complete scand, and it will take us until turn 5 to break it (and that's with lots of luck) and bring us back to even income (but him with bigger stacks for sure). I cant conceive of a way that this option will lead to a win. If one of you can spell out a hypothetical scenario where it does id be grateful.

Edited 4/25/2014 07:01:40

I think the votes for option A and B should be counted together since they both agree that taking East China is worth the risk. Option A let's us take East China a little bit safer and option B is better when Odin (for some reason) attacks East China first turn.

It was my first instinct to play like this. It was primarily meant against the favored move of taking SA, instead of being the superior cause of action. In regards of Normans post I am aware and already stated that him taking Scand will most likely lead to a swift defeat.

My plan was never going for elimination of him in East China in case of encountering, but just using the mere threat as a momentum for the next moves in russia or CA. I was never fully satisfied with it and I know that it can fail gloriously.

I just dont want us to take SA as first bonus and would rather have us take Russia instead.

On second thought going with 4 to Vorkuta and 4 to moscow while checking for Hong Kong could be a better move, with hopes of finishing Russia next turn.

Edited 4/25/2014 09:37:01

you guys are all crazy, we need strategy A!

I think his 3rd pick is in East Africa

If you attack Hong Kong 8v2, and hes not in West china, you are BONED. If you are TRULY afraid of him being in West China, i would go with strategy B

Edited 4/25/2014 11:12:59

Sorry, I didn't mean to shout you down, I didn't realise you were thinking out loud. I think he would see that there was no threat of him being eliminated in china (it would lead to a loss) and not deploy or move, so there wouldn't be any momentum gained. He might fall for it though?

Doing Russia first is very similar to doing SA first with the main difference being that one can defend SA more easily because there is no territory for him to take with a double border on SA. If we do Russia and he takes finland defending is going to be outrageously difficult.

i'll tally results tommorow.

Yeah, I'm pretty sure he's East Africa too, but I'm not willing to take a bonus that could potentially have a triple border against my enemy with 8 vs 9 income. If my guess is wrong, and he's west china.. it's game if I try to take east china. If I take South America, there's minimal risk involve. Sure he scouts Cuba, but he will lack the income to bust South America and expand a bonus. He'll have to choose which is more important: Securing income, or busting mine. It's too risky to bust me, so he'll secure his income. If I scout West China and he's there, then no harm no foul. Sure he'll have an army advantage there, but I did not waste my income trying to take East China and will be able to equalize that front. Being eliminated from there may sound bad if it happens, but in that scenario I will probably have advantage in Cuba or Scand, much quicker bonuses to expand if I eliminate him. So, I don't really understand the hate on taking South America.

My prediction, he is in china and will move full in scan. I'm really hoping option D won't get voted.

Edited 4/26/2014 16:36:01

Following your prediction, we should be fine expanding SA.