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Is Illuminati still a troll clan?: 4/16/2014 23:27:34


SkyLimit
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Nothing much is happening so...
Is Illuminati still a troll clan?: 4/16/2014 23:29:48


Bananashake 
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no they are best and will soon win the clan league.
Is Illuminati still a troll clan?: 4/16/2014 23:32:31


[LN] Dubs
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Well the best remedy for a bad reputation here is silence...
Is Illuminati still a troll clan?: 4/17/2014 00:52:50


Hidden Hand 
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The issue is anti-Illuminati threads, I get more messages asking me if we are active rather than asking to join, Can't do it all on my own, and the last time I trusted 3 people, I lost the clan.
So what can you do, but sit and wait while T4R slowly catches up.
Is Illuminati still a troll clan?: 4/17/2014 00:59:35


<SNinja>gg
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the reason I dislike illuminati is because you just care about how many members you have. that's stupid. why. i would say the only way to fix up illuminati is to do what kant did kick almost every one and become a competitive clan. only way.

(not that i am not supporting what kant did but he/she had the right idea on how to change the situation)
Is Illuminati still a troll clan?: 4/17/2014 02:22:55


Hidden Hand 
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But that is exactly what he did and he cam up to the same problem, no one is reliable and trustworthy enough to help run a top tier clan with that many members.
If anyone is willing to help instead of criticize, it would be welcomed.
The number of members is not our only goal, being in the top bracket of clans is.

If we need to recruit high level members and become more active to do so, so be it.
Who wants to be part of the transformation?
Is Illuminati still a troll clan?: 4/17/2014 02:40:13


The National Socialist
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Nobody. Illuminati is trash.
Is Illuminati still a troll clan?: 4/17/2014 03:54:05

Spectre Alpha 
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How cute.
Is Illuminati still a troll clan?: 4/17/2014 04:11:05


♈§IRIÜS♈ 
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wow... lawlz says illuminati is trash... that is definitely interesting....
Is Illuminati still a troll clan?: 4/17/2014 09:22:53


Ⓖ. Ⓐrun 
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Lawlz, T4R is very similar to Illuminanti so be careful what you say ;)

Hidden Hand, you can't devote the clan to gaining respect. That's not how it works. Your clan should have a purpose, and you should constantly work towards that purpose. Are you going for skill, RP, map making or what? At the moment you are devoted to gaining invites; which will merit absolutely no respect at all.
Is Illuminati still a troll clan?: 4/17/2014 11:47:41


Aranka 
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Your clan should have a purpose, and you should constantly work towards that purpose. Are you going for skill, RP, map making or what? At the moment you are devoted to gaining invites; which will merit absolutely no respect at all.


That's funny....coming from warlighters :)
Is Illuminati still a troll clan?: 4/17/2014 11:53:58


Ⓖ. Ⓐrun 
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Why? We have a purpose and we do not devote ourselves to gaining invites.
Is Illuminati still a troll clan?: 4/17/2014 12:06:28


Aranka 
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You guys used to be the clan with the most members.

So the past doesn't really merit you guys to be the people now criticizing the Illuminati clan
Is Illuminati still a troll clan?: 4/17/2014 13:08:43


Taishō 
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Though it seems enough to condemn them.
Is Illuminati still a troll clan?: 4/17/2014 13:29:58


Richard Sharpe 
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Actually Aranka, if anything it puts Arun in the best position to criticize. He has been down that path and possibly learned from his mistakes, the same mistakes that Hand is arguably making.

Granted, that assumes he has improved his clan and I have no clue (nor care) if that is the case.

As for Illuminati, I know of no surer sign that they are a garbage clan than to say they invited me to join.
Is Illuminati still a troll clan?: 4/17/2014 13:58:34


Ⓖ. Ⓐrun 
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What Sharpe said (we have improved for the record ;) ). Also when we had the most members there were about 5 clans on the site, and we peaked at around 30 members. I'd say REGL always had more than us.

Edited 4/17/2014 13:59:06
Is Illuminati still a troll clan?: 4/17/2014 15:04:39


The National Socialist
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Lawlz, T4R is very similar to Illuminanti so be careful what you say ;)


Incorrect. I've see the inside of illuminati. Completely inactive player base, and boring.

T4R is dedicated to the teaching of basic Roleplay skills through diplomacy games, and we have a very active player base, and new diplos every few weeks.
Is Illuminati still a troll clan?: 4/17/2014 15:38:05


Ⓖ. Ⓐrun 
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Similar on the mass invite side of things.

Also, every player listed as inactive in your clan:
http://warlight.net/Profile?p=5826065074
http://warlight.net/Profile?p=1526670184
http://warlight.net/Profile?p=6623933586
http://warlight.net/Profile?p=8127393226
http://warlight.net/Profile?p=812912478
http://warlight.net/Profile?p=2813492299
http://warlight.net/Profile?p=9927460709
http://warlight.net/Profile?p=8819397254
http://warlight.net/Profile?p=418777546
http://warlight.net/Profile?p=1618832730
http://warlight.net/Profile?p=2321173792
http://warlight.net/Profile?p=7626436452
http://warlight.net/Profile?p=8927870300
http://warlight.net/Profile?p=4028842925
http://warlight.net/Profile?p=9419824829
http://warlight.net/Profile?p=7327867227
http://warlight.net/Profile?p=535296430
http://warlight.net/Profile?p=1721467810
http://warlight.net/Profile?p=8311419659
http://warlight.net/Profile?p=1528477105
http://warlight.net/Profile?p=748119349
http://warlight.net/Profile?p=3223636628
http://warlight.net/Profile?p=2221392278
http://warlight.net/Profile?p=4024568836
http://warlight.net/Profile?p=6817592147
http://warlight.net/Profile?p=9621884947
http://warlight.net/Profile?p=5722723728
http://warlight.net/Profile?p=6726516602
http://warlight.net/Profile?p=6726516602
http://warlight.net/Profile?p=1422043597
http://warlight.net/Profile?p=7626376050
http://warlight.net/Profile?p=5526494025
http://warlight.net/Profile?p=6924386554
http://warlight.net/Profile?p=4019560076
http://warlight.net/Profile?p=2720334563
http://warlight.net/Profile?p=5018657685
http://warlight.net/Profile?p=5018657685
http://warlight.net/Profile?p=6922024382
http://warlight.net/Profile?p=9118907568
http://warlight.net/Profile?p=455488646
http://warlight.net/Profile?p=3326710802
http://warlight.net/Profile?p=8423162010
http://warlight.net/Profile?p=517608157
http://warlight.net/Profile?p=6825511905
http://warlight.net/Profile?p=6825511905
http://warlight.net/Profile?p=4825142352
http://warlight.net/Profile?p=689830983
http://warlight.net/Profile?p=8026522491
http://warlight.net/Profile?p=3125401819
http://warlight.net/Profile?p=1411702385
http://warlight.net/Profile?p=7528558058
http://warlight.net/Profile?p=3725287236
http://warlight.net/Profile?p=1821962856
http://warlight.net/Profile?p=7021271483
http://warlight.net/Profile?p=9814569425
http://warlight.net/Profile?p=8926677573
http://warlight.net/Profile?p=847952904
http://warlight.net/Profile?p=1224028351
http://warlight.net/Profile?p=1921207353
http://warlight.net/Profile?p=585760879
http://warlight.net/Profile?p=3017693163
http://warlight.net/Profile?p=3318895580
http://warlight.net/Profile?p=8516945400
http://warlight.net/Profile?p=2522501400
http://warlight.net/Profile?p=8325673389
That's 65 out of 119. Around 55%
A few of these are around 2-5 days, which I guess I can understand. But I think more than half of your clan are over 20 days inactive. I think a majority of your players are long inactive, an "inactive player base", no? I certainly wouldn't describe a clan with half its members inactive as having "a very active player base".

Edited 4/17/2014 15:51:53
Is Illuminati still a troll clan?: 4/17/2014 16:13:03


The National Socialist
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Awww, that's cute :)

You care so much Arun <3
Is Illuminati still a troll clan?: 4/17/2014 16:15:51


Ⓖ. Ⓐrun 
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:) Just proving T4R is a load of bollocks. Active player base? Please..
Is Illuminati still a troll clan?: 4/17/2014 16:20:52


The National Socialist
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Pff, T4R has 20 different people constantly chatting up our groups and forums. And games, and new ideas shared every week. Warlighters has 16 people. By percentages most clans are more active, but we clearly have more active members.
Is Illuminati still a troll clan?: 4/17/2014 16:28:59


Ⓖ. Ⓐrun 
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T4R brings in a hundred players of which 99% become inactive after a week. Your original point was that T4R was completely different to Illuminanti. I've just exposed over half your clan that are inactive, thus making you look very similar to Illuminanti.

Edited 4/17/2014 16:30:57
Is Illuminati still a troll clan?: 4/17/2014 16:32:27


The National Socialist
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Doesn't matter. Your practicing skills to win games, and recruit decently skilled players.

We teach low level players, and limited skilled Roleplayers. These low levels may not like warlight, and will go inactive without notice. Managing a smaller clan is a lot different, I wouldn't expect you to know.
Is Illuminati still a troll clan?: 4/17/2014 16:35:27


Ⓖ. Ⓐrun 
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It doesn't matter about my clan. It is totally irrelevant to the point you were making. You tried to portray T4R as much better than Illuminanti. This is false.

Edited 4/17/2014 16:35:39
Is Illuminati still a troll clan?: 4/17/2014 16:37:55


The National Socialist
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It is, seeing as I have been in both and can make that judgement.

If somebody said warlighters sucks without knowing a thing, would you take their word for it?
Is Illuminati still a troll clan?: 4/17/2014 19:42:20


Ⓖ. Ⓐrun 
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Why is T4R better than? You both mass invite, you both have huge numbers of inactive members and you both have an abominable reputation.
Is Illuminati still a troll clan?: 4/17/2014 20:30:27


The National Socialist
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We separate ourselves from the mess of "skill" clans which are all identical, IMO.

To show this, we teach players through our Training Camp, run by Xethos.

Roleplay is best taught by example. A new diplomacy game is sprouted every week or so.

We keep our forums full of entertaining and helpful threads alike. A thread for jokes, threads to introduce yourself, the clan blacklist of course*

Never before posed was the question to kick inactive players, as we don't want to cause more damage to the clan, than good. We are undergoing changes to benefit the clan in this way and allowing the T4R community to comment on the situation.


*Do not ask me to admit any personal information about these threads.
Is Illuminati still a troll clan?: 4/17/2014 20:44:12


Richard Sharpe 
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I like that your trainer has a pretty abysmal record.
Is Illuminati still a troll clan?: 4/17/2014 20:48:05


The National Socialist
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3v3: 79 / 135 (59%)

2v2: 41 / 70 (59%)

1v1: 23 / 74 (31%)


That's not that bad. And besides, he runs it, he's not the only trainer.

Edited 4/17/2014 20:49:57
Is Illuminati still a troll clan?: 4/17/2014 21:21:53


Ⓖ. Ⓐrun 
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What I see in those stats is a poor player who's been lucky to have someone to carry him in team games.

Also, you never answered my question. You said before that your clan was much better than Illuminanti. Looking at the evidence and statements I posted, how can you support your belief?
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