Because most of the people don't care about image.

If that image is as abhorrent as the one portrayed in your clan, I (and most people) would certainly care. The image can be interpreted as what you stand for. It is an idea of what the clan is about. In this case, the idea is National Socialism! Come on! Seriously?

This is not fair to Jews, and other peoples the Nazis persecuted. It is not fair to Germans either, who probably get the shivers every time Nazi is uttered (I would too if I were German). It is offensive, deliberately provocative and overtly racist.

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Deal with it Arun. You don't get a say. Ask any of the people that joined T4R if they care what you say or think(Excluding blitz)? Our image is terrible, and yet people still join? They clearly know what the clan stands for, and what it's about. We don't just hand out invites to everybody, like illuminati. You guys are so ridiculous. You specifically target us, and while it's an easy target for trolls, I expected better from you guys. It's not racist. In any way. I will defend that till I die (or retire from warlight :p ).

And you know how I know it's only forumers that have issues? We have Jews in our clan.

Because most of the people have no concept of image.

Fixed it.

We rigorously take precautions and steps within the clan to ensure the safety of the clan, as well as to make each member feel safe from prosecution by racist tone or nature. We take care of our clan, and you're the only group to ever disagree and call us racist

And yet you create a thread in the forum with a Nazi slogan as the title...

This clan does not glorify Nazism, nor endorse anti-Semitic beliefs in any way. 

The Third Reich is an interesting part of history and very easy to RP with.

We don't mean to offend anyone of German/Jewish origins with the clan, name or any material here.

T4R does not condone the atrocities of WWII. 

We are structured on the military side of Germany during the Second World War ONLY,
not the politics, genocide or racism.

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Ein Reich! Ein Volk! Ein Führer!

This is taken in the very LITERAL sense of the word, not the underlying tone of Nazism. In absolutely no way am I preaching anti-semetic values or hate.

I thought "Ein Volk! Ein Reich! Ein Führer!" was a political Nazi slogan and was not particularly associated with the Wehrmacht? o.O

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/F%C3%BChrer#Ein_Volk.2C_ein_Reich.2C_ein_F.C3.BChrer

One of the Nazis' most-repeated political slogans was Ein Volk, ein Reich, ein Führer – "One People, One Empire, One Leader" ... the slogan "left an indelible mark on the minds of most Germans who lived through the Nazi years. It appeared on countless posters and in publications ... The slogan emphasized the absolute control of the party over practically every sector of German society and culture

You don't get a say.

This being a forum says otherwise.

It's not racist.

Fourth Reich? Am I really the only person who thinks this a direct reference to neo-Nazism (which is racist Lalwz)?

And you know how I know it's only forumers that have issues? We have Jews in our clan.

This says nothing about it only being forumers. It says that a couple of Jews can overlook your underlying Nazi theme.

We rigorously take precautions and steps within the clan to ensure the safety of the clan, as well as to make each member feel safe from prosecution by racist tone or nature.

Ah yes, very sensible to take care of people in your racist group - they may feel threatened.

you're the only group to ever disagree and call us racist

A shame this group appears to be the majority of the (neutral) active community, and your only support is from clan mates.

This clan does not glorify Nazism, nor endorse anti-Semitic beliefs in any way.

What better way to do this than use a neo-Nazi buzz word for our clan name and use a Nazi slogan for this thread's title?!

We don't mean to offend anyone of German/Jewish origins with the clan, name or any material here.

Because while making the clan, nobody ever thought this concept may be offensive to anyone.

Oh great, troll food -_-

What a disarming response. You may have taken the debate by storm with that.

This being a forum says otherwise

You acted like you had a say in something, and can change T4R. You don't.

Of course I have a say. Read my above post. I can't change your clan no, but I can shit on it in the forums.

Okay. Then proceed. Please show us what a great guy you are :)

Read my above post.

Those who don't learn from history are condemned to repeat it...who said that again? Too lazy to Google it, but I'll say this:

T4R makes a thread, gets bashed. Things cool down until, BOOM! T4R makes another thread...and gets bashed. Talk about a vicious cycle, I think this is the 3rd or 4th round now?

Illuminati had the same problem, though they learned much faster than the Nazis, adapt and survive.

Actually, I wonder if this publicity is actually helping them. The noobs flock to the T4R because it's a symbol of anti-elitism on WarLight. Those who can't compete will ban together and destroy the pillars of meritocracy!

Any respectable player refrains from being associated with that clan. So in the end, it does a good job of separating the wheat from the chaff.

If you say that Nazism and Racism are similar or even the same things, then it's obvious for me that none of you know the meaning of those words.

Coming out of my vacation for this. Hi Arun, you look like you're having a lot of fun. That fun being devoting your essence to "shit all on" a clan that don't really wish to associate with you. I bet it'll be great when you're lying on your deathbed thinking "I wish I sat there and wasted just 2 more hours arguing with Lawlz on a browser based game, that is how I could have spent more of my life".

This post was not serious, it needn't evoke a serious discussion, for God's sake. I respect that some people may hold strong views about what connotations our clan may create. If you're so willing to spout out the same stuff we've heard over and over about how we're Nazis then really, PM me and I'll read it when I come back to Warlight. I really couldn't care less about Lawlz's promotion myself, it brings him joy now rather than building on your endless list of personal victories can we just drop it. Lawlz gets labelled as a forum troll, why have the same go at him every time? Why not just learn to ignore it if it annoys you so much? Its petty and it is actually such a waste of time and not productive in the slightest.

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Also, that sentiment:
"The noobs flock to the T4R because it's a symbol of anti-elitism on WarLight."
I'm actually complimented by that, we accept anyone because we're a community-oriented clan as opposed to ladders. Rather than that becoming sour, could I please ask kindly that this thread now dies down? As a peace offering of sorts I recommend watching Highschool DxD its a good plot (it really is) despite the abundance of boobs...