Stop comparing yourself to (suspected) alts of (good) players and top players.

The phrase itself was a slogan of the Third Reich, something that most every German recognizes and winces at when they hear/read it.

Using the flag of the 2nd German Republic, in combination with your Fourth Reich Clan is what bothers me most, though I wasn't directing my comment at your picture, but the slogan.

I've had a couple chats with the leader of your clan and one of the reasons I toned down my protests was because he agreed to keep public threads to a minimum. Now that he's on "vacation" you seem to be doing a fine job of disregarding this informal agreement.

@Gnullberg, you're correct, which is one of the reasons I said borderline, but Verwendung of a site that tolerates the promotion of Nazism can be considered a Straftat in Germany, though it's not as if the government actively polices the internet for such things.

Also, Nazi (as you know) means National Socialist, so I use nationalist and Nazi interchangeably much of the time. I would consider Merkel and Gauck patriots, if specifically asked.

You have got to be kidding me. I said I make pointless threads, and point out others that do so.

And fyi, before I make posts, I always consult a leader (usually Xethos). He saw this thread the same way I did:

Completely harmless

You have got to be kidding him. He said he make pointless threads, and point out others that do so.

And fyi, before Lawlz make posts, he always consult a leader (usually Xethos). Also he saw this thread the same way Lawlz did:

Completely harmless

(Just to conform what Lawlz did say..)

This whole conversation is pointless and before lawlz (and all of t4r) learns anything about why all this could offend some people this will not go anywhere..

I understand why it would offend. And some people are touchy.

I don't spout off about nazi beliefs, they do it themselves. Over analyzing everything.

Si Deus nobiscum quis contra nos!!!

this whole thread should be deleted.

I can't help but wonder why so many players join a clan which heavily hints of neo-Nazism.

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Because most of the people don't care about image.

They care about what our clan offers and that is well thought out clan games, tournaments, and an inviting community.

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Well said!

Also, Nazi (as you know) means National Socialist, so I use nationalist and Nazi interchangeably much of the time.

Yeah I figured. You shouldn't conflate them though. While every national socialist is a nationalist, not every nationalist is a national socialist. German Nationalism is 100-120 years older than national socialism, and just one element of the NS ideology.

I would consider Merkel and Gauck patriots, if specifically asked.

Well for all intends and purposes, 'patriotism' is just a euphemism for nationalism. It's very easy to point out nationalists/'patriots' that aren't nazis, but pretty much impossible to find that one earnest patriot who doesn't subscribe to nationalist ideas, because the words are essentially synonymous.

http://www.sueddeutsche.de/wissen/liebe-zum-land-die-maer-vom-guten-patrioten-1.912131

I mean I get why it's so chic in German-speaking parts right now, of course. How can we love 'SCHLAND but steer clear of '33-'45 at the same time? Hey, let's just make a big deal out of this tiny gradual difference in meaning between these two words. There. Now we can go right back to feeling good about 'ourselves' again. Finally. Let's sell some weapons. Actually let's send some paratroopers. For Menschenwürde!

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YES, I WILL FIGHT FOR MY COUNTRY!!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hnmg-k1BR6U says it all. The anthem of a true patriot!

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_1Zw-dzJ5vw

Glory to Arstotzka.

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What myhand actually wanted to post: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4_r_68x1AQc :D

Whooooooooo!!!!!!!!!!!

YEAH!! Your the best Lawlz!! You Are Awesome and Amazing!
You are nice and kind and think of others and love us all no matter what and spend a lot of time on the computer and you see the big picture and support all of us in what we do and you listen to what God says to you and face your fears and push through them! You Are Awesome!!!

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!

Haven't you learned??? NEVER mention God on the Internet!!!!!!!

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You're really on my nerves, blitz -_-

And God doesn't exist :p

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