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Testers for historical United States map?: 5/28/2012 20:13:53


BearsBeetsBattlestarGalactica
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http://WarLight.net/SinglePlayer.aspx?PreviewMap=13605

It's a historical map showing native tribes with bonuses for geographical regions and language groups. Anyone interested in helping me test it out?
Testers for historical United States map?: 5/28/2012 21:20:23


Moros 
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Sure!
Testers for historical United States map?: 5/29/2012 02:31:13

DagenDaDragon (ReTIRED OF WARLIGHT) 
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I would love to.
Testers for historical United States map?: 5/29/2012 15:34:11


Moros 
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A shame you didn't make testing games after all, I was going to say a couple of things about borders and bonuses.
Testers for historical United States map?: 5/29/2012 15:35:36

Grzechooo 
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I'd like to test it out, but I already have an idea: shrink it a bit.
Testers for historical United States map?: 5/29/2012 16:34:45


Ironheart
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me too
bonus
borders
Testers for historical United States map?: 5/29/2012 20:06:26


BearsBeetsBattlestarGalactica
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Thanks guys. As it turned out, I got a couple of friends to help me out with a few test games and it worked out well. If what you were going to mention with the borders and bonuses was separating the bonus borders so they dont overlap, I tried, but inkscape would only inset by 5 px and I couldnt find a way to change that. It was making the territories too small... As for shrinking it, it's just barely big enough to fit the armies as it is.

This is only the first version and I definitely play on revising it.

Thanks for all the input. If you have any other suggestions, let me know! :)
Testers for historical United States map?: 5/29/2012 20:43:25


Moros 
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Uhm... Inset is not the way you're supposed to make interbonus borders! They should be made by hand! And your borders weren't so horribly bad on average, except for the large hole between Northeast and Plains.
Testers for historical United States map?: 5/29/2012 21:13:52


BearsBeetsBattlestarGalactica
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Yeah, Early in the drawing process I guess I accidentally moved the northeast and was unable to undo it so i tried to line them up the best I could, but it wasnt perfect. Thats definitely something I have to revise.
Testers for historical United States map?: 6/4/2012 16:25:02


ChrisCMU 
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I don't see a territory for Sioux. They should have a large portion of the plains area.
Testers for historical United States map?: 6/4/2012 20:05:49


BearsBeetsBattlestarGalactica
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Sioux refers to any tribe within the Sioux nation, including tribes such as the Yanktonai, Yankton, Arikara, Mandan, Teton, Hidatsa, Cheyenne, Blackfoot, Assiniboin and Santee.
Testers for historical United States map?: 6/14/2012 23:56:18

BloodBlitzer
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only problem i can see is that the northeast is way too overpowered
Testers for historical United States map?: 6/19/2012 13:11:50


Italian Stallion [coldblood]
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in the east the southern part of the catawba and norther part of the next territory need to be Waxhaws
Testers for historical United States map?: 6/19/2012 14:43:22


ChrisCMU 
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Yeah, you can't see both colors along a bonus border. Also, I would make the sub areas different colors in the same family. So the northeast would have different shades of green. Like how I used different shades of blue on this one:

http://WarLight.net/SinglePlayer.aspx?PreviewMap=9405

Then you at least have some designation without clicking on a bonus link
Testers for historical United States map?: 6/19/2012 15:35:38


BearsBeetsBattlestarGalactica
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Sorry, the link is still to version 1.0.

Version 1.1 is public and can be found here: http://warlight.net/SinglePlayer.aspx?PreviewMap=13615

Mainly, the changes are:

    * Fixed the giant holes separating the Northeast from the rest of the map
    * Separated borders between major bonuses
    * Fixed some of the territory names (typos, incorrect capitalisations, etc.)


Version 1.2 is already under development, and will separate the borders of the smaller regional bonuses (though likely not make them different colours) similar to what I did here: http://warlight.net/SinglePlayer.aspx?PreviewMap=14111
Testers for historical United States map?: 6/19/2012 17:12:33


Moros 
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Why not make them different shades of the same colour? That would be more clear, but still recognizable as one bonus.
Testers for historical United States map?: 6/19/2012 17:21:33


Min34 
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What?! You have published your 4th or 5th (maby more) map this month. They are not super big, but how do you have enough time for this?
Testers for historical United States map?: 6/19/2012 18:06:02


BearsBeetsBattlestarGalactica
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5th. My largest map (960 some odd territories) is still being tested, hopefully to be released with a week or two. And I'm currently in the drawing stages of map 7.

As for how I can make so many maps, ever since exams have been over, I've had a bunch of free time, and I have nothing better to do. Another reason is that I have figured out ways to greatly streamline the drawing process, making it much more efficient. To draw a 100 territory map like my North Carolina map takes me under a half hour. I would definitely be willing to share my methods if anyone were to be interested. I also am a big part of the Wikimedia Commons project, part of which is converting the older, outdated .png maps with newer, sleeker, and far more easily editable .svg files. As I make some of the maps for Wikipedia, I, at the same time, make them compatible for Warlight. So essentially, I can finish 2 projects at once, while only really doing the work for one.

I definitely encourage anyone who makes maps for Warlight to strongly consider helping out with the Wikimedia Commons SVG Project. If you make accurate political maps of countries, and you are willing to release your work into the public domain, it's definitely worth sharing your creations for the rest of the world to use. Almost anything uploaded to Wikimedia Commons has been released by the creator to be used with no copyright restrictions, which is fantastic. The free unlimited accessibility of creations to help better society is, I believe, huge step in human progress.
Testers for historical United States map?: 6/19/2012 19:43:44


Moros 
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Do you think they could use my Canada Big file? There are no other svg files of the Canadian census divisions around, I know, I've checked.
http://warlight.net/Map.aspx?ID=2526
Testers for historical United States map?: 6/19/2012 19:46:32


Moros 
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(sorry for the double post)
And I'd totally be interested in your map making technique. 100 territories in 30 minutes, that's pretty fast!
Testers for historical United States map?: 6/19/2012 20:29:22


BearsBeetsBattlestarGalactica
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Ill come up with a typed up procedure of tips for mapmaking and post it in another thread at some point. I'd like to include diagrams to help explain some of the things, so it might take some time. I think there's also a warlight wiki, so ill look into putting it there as well. Essentially, its just little tricks using the vast features of Inkscape to make the maps more aesthetically beautiful, and quicker to create.

As for your Canada map, yes! Anything is fantastic! However, theres a bunch of prepwork that should (not necessarily NEEDED) be done on that map. Borders between provinces should be shared borders as if they were individual territories. Insets might not be the best idea (although artistic license, so you could do whatever you want). Obviously, bonuslinks should be removed. You should make sure that if it is a map of the census divisions, that you are accurately showing the census divisions. From the description, some of the provinces/territories dont have census divisions so you included islands. But some of the islands are split. You would need to merge them and show that there is no data for those areas. It's all do-able however and its really a question of whether you want to spend the time to adapt it.

P.S. You're missing connection lines between Southeastern Victoria Island-King William Island and King William Island-Kitikmeot in Nunavut. (Which the bonuslink incorrectly spells as Nuvanut...) :)

Also, you may be missing a connection between Durham and Peterborough in Ontario. (Diagonal corners, so I'm not sure if it's supposed to be there or not)
Testers for historical United States map?: 6/19/2012 23:23:07


ChrisCMU 
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Yeah, I did my Diablo 3 map in a couple hours (all drawn manually). Doesn't take too long. I did my other map from vectorizing an image in Illustrator. That actually took longer since I had tons of gaps to clean up. Would have been faster to go from scratch since I didn't have a clean vector file.
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