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surveillance not applicable to big bonuses: 5/26/2012 01:04:27


AtomikDuke
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i was playing on big earth and i was wondering why some surveillance cards are better than some spy cards, and its somewhat tricky. So my suggestion is to make some bonuses (the big ones only) not applicable to surveillance and prevent this
surveillance not applicable to big bonuses: 5/26/2012 01:14:58


AtomikDuke
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surveillance not applicable to big bonuses: 5/26/2012 11:50:07


Ironheart
Level 53
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what is the defination of a big bonus.
Is the power or the number of territories and i think this idea is a waste of votes.
After alll the spy card is stilll stronger.
surveillance not applicable to big bonuses: 5/26/2012 14:13:12


[REGL] Pooh 
Level 60
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You can disable the surveillance card on big bonuses by setting the bonus value to 0.

Otherwise, I agree with Ironheart. Then put in a recon card if you want a limited surveillance card.
surveillance not applicable to big bonuses: 5/26/2012 14:34:33


Perrin3088 
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I've suggested this, although not via UV.. the problem lies in the fact the mapmaker would have to designate Super Bonuses as different in some manner, in order for the Surveillance card to be able to differentiate between the two..

I agree, playing on some maps with super-bonuses, and surveillance, this is one of those things that gives the experienced player an advantage... that being said, I don't suggest it should never target them, just an option to be able not to..

poorly organized thought process, but I hope it can be understood..
surveillance not applicable to big bonuses: 5/26/2012 15:45:01


BearsBeetsBattlestarGalactica
Level 19
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For example, playing a surveillance card on the Unification of China bonus in the Eastern Asia map when playing more than 1v1 is **much** better than spying on a single opponent. It gives you much more information than the spy card would. I agree that some bonuses (like this one) should not be surveillable.
surveillance not applicable to big bonuses: 5/26/2012 16:04:05


x 
Level 58
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this is ridiculous. its such a minor issue and there are ways around it.
surveillance not applicable to big bonuses: 5/31/2012 23:39:28


ChrisCMU 
Level 60
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If you are playing on a map with large bonus areas (Ireland is a great example of this because all but "Northern Ireland" is one major bonus), then don't play with that card. I think it is just a matter of doing your settings right.
surveillance not applicable to big bonuses: 6/1/2012 12:38:31


Perrin3088 
Level 44
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Chris, that is one solution.. but in the E.Asia map, for instance.. surveillance can be a highly useful card that can't readily be copied, and is overpowered considering super-bonuses, but would be just right with only regular bonuses... or New York Big, for instance.. although Imho NYB has less need of this, since the Super Bonuses are roughly the same size, and none of them are an (nearly) entire map bonus which becomes the obvious choice 95% of the time..
surveillance not applicable to big bonuses: 6/1/2012 15:12:36


Moros 
Level 50
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There's a way for the map maker to make superbonuses unsurveillancable. Simply not add the bonus link and put in text how much it's worth.
surveillance not applicable to big bonuses: 6/1/2012 15:43:52

Grzechooo 
Level 30
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@Moros
It can be still selected with a bonus selection window?
surveillance not applicable to big bonuses: 6/1/2012 15:47:04

Grzechooo 
Level 30
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Nah, I just checked it, ignore the post above.
surveillance not applicable to big bonuses: 6/1/2012 15:59:05


Perrin3088 
Level 44
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Moros.. that doesn't even make sense..

for example, test it with the realistic europe map.. when you attempt to use surveillance all of the individual strategic points bonuses are selectable, despite not having a bonus link... the only way (that I know of) to get it off the list is to make the bonus = 0
surveillance not applicable to big bonuses: 6/1/2012 16:11:11

Grzechooo 
Level 30
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I wonder if 0-bonus non-selectability is a bug or a feature.
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