Well here's a huge meta-analysis of "all peer-reviewed articles published in English between 1991 and June 2017 that assess the effect of gender transition on transgender well-being." that concludes, "This search found a robust international consensus in the peer-reviewed literature that gender transition, including medical treatments such as hormone therapy and surgeries, improves the overall well-being of transgender individuals. The literature also indicates that greater availability of medical and social support for gender transition contributes to better quality of life for those who identify as transgender."

https://whatweknow.inequality.cornell.edu/topics/lgbt-equality/what-does-the-scholarly-research-say-about-the-well-being-of-transgender-people/

Indulging mentally ill peoples' delusions and self-destructive fetishes leads them on a short path to suicide.

I don't insist that the state prevents adults intent on destroying their mind and body as a fashion statement or as part of a legitimate mental illness from doing so, but I do insist that accurate medical information is provided and that children be prevented from DESTROYING their reproductive systems PERMANENTLY. This shit should not be PROMOTED to anyone let alone children.

@Vernal Vinaigrette I think that is a very main stream view point. I would speculate that even most transgender people would support measures disallowing children from undergoing surgery, and taking hormones. While also providing accurate medical information to the trans patient before surgery or hormones is administered. While having only read the linked page, Zoe provided and not the actual studies, it doesn't seem to mention minors.

You can be trans and be completely mentally healthy, not all trans people have gender dysphoria. And you can whine all you want but the studies show trans people are *much* better off in an accepting environment and being provided hormones and SRS. As for trans children, most studies show the majority of trans children are correct in that they are trans, and usually know prior to social transitions. Most studies also show trans children are better off taking puberty blockers than not.

https://www.theatlantic.com/science/archive/2019/01/young-trans-children-know-who-they-are/580366/

https://pediatrics.aappublications.org/content/137/3/e20153223
"In sum, we provide novel evidence of low rates of internalizing psychopathology in young socially transitioned transgender children who are supported in their gender identity. These data suggest at least the possibility that being transgender is not synonymous with, nor the direct result of, psychopathology in childhood.27 Instead, these results provide clear evidence that transgender children have levels of anxiety and depression no different from their nontransgender siblings and peers. "

@Zoe You understand posting links to sources without thinking critically about the links you are posting is doing you no favors. Those papers do not give the type of resounding statements that you seem to be implying.

What's that supposed to mean? One is from a major news outlet and the other is a meta-analysis of dozens of studies from Cornell university.

not all trans people have gender dysphoria
Wrong.

@Zoe have you even read them? And not just the 1 paragraph abstract, but actually read them in their entirety? The methodology is horrible, they both use convience sampling. They both have a relatively small sample size. They both do very little to control for a few obvious confounding variables (if you had read the study in its entirety, it even says this). They aren't drawing the conclusions you seem to be drawing, and they do not follow the scientific method.

Finally do you even understand what you are suggesting? Have you ever really known a 5-12 year old?

Small sample size? The Cornel one is a meta-analysis of literally every single English-language study on the subject in the last couple decades. And what conclusions do you think the Cornel one is drawing? Because it quite literally says, "This search found a robust international consensus in the peer-reviewed literature that gender transition, including medical treatments such as hormone therapy and surgeries, improves the overall well-being of transgender individuals. The literature also indicates that greater availability of medical and social support for gender transition contributes to better quality of life for those who identify as transgender."

JapanBall, could you elaborate beyond a single word lol

I should add, the meta-analysis pretty much analyzed every single study there is on the subject and found, "no studies concluding that gender transition causes overall harm."

As for the meta-analysis's methodology, could you elaborate on how it was "faulty" or explain specifically how they "didn't follow the scientific process"? Because I can't find it. And even if you do elaborate, I'll take your word with a very tiny grain of salt, because I would prefer an actual academic takedown of the meta-analysis than some random person on a forum.

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There is no scientific evidence for anybody other than those with gender dysphoria to be trans. There is scientific evidence for them not to be trans.

ok gender dysphoria results in trans people but what about when the dysphoria is alleviated then hmmmmmm riddle me this

When the dysphoria is gone due to having fully transitioned (which is incredibly rare), the trans person still has the medical condition, and it is still referred to as gender dysphoria. The dysphoria in the title refers to the dysphoria towards the birth sex.

People are trans simply by identifying as a gender other than the one they were assigned at birth. You can identify as another gender and not feel distress or anxiety about it, which is what gender dysphoria is. Although admittedly it's more common to experience gender dysphoria for trans people, it isn't always the case. Just being trans itself is not a mental illness.

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hey guys who here is trans and actually knows what they're talking about