I agree with Zerbi, this would make the groups much more balanced for the next season, but this grouping system will only be useful for 1 season to balance the groups fast.

But for the newcomers we should make a group where there place will decide in what group they will come in the Promotion/Relegation league on the whey Zerbi is proposing.

About the fourth point: with 8 players in a group we can still have 2 players staying, with top 3 promoted and bottom 3 delegated. Just wanted to point it out.

neverminde my last posr, it would ruin the 2e point that Chokecherry made.

What's going on with group A? I saw an email saying that the tourney had finished, but I am still in a game. Was that the false start tourney you made at the beginning?

Also, LET'S HEAR RESULTS!

All 4 round-robins are nearing completion, but none of them are done yet. I plan to give results when the tourneys are complete. You're likely right about the email relating to the false start. In the meantime, if you need to brag a bit about still being undefeated, TexasJohn, go for it!

So far I have beaten Farragut, Bluemonkey, and HHH (which was a real shocker to me!), with a game against Warlord still in progress. That one is way to early to tell the result, although I think I am expanding quite well at the moment.

I guess Domenico is already in 2 games, and thus cannot play me until he finishes his current games? Personally, I wouldn't mind having the game limit set to 3, to make the rounds finish quicker. Others might disagree. It would be nice if the mechanics were like the ladder, where people could select how many games they wanted to play at a time. I guess that's not possible for tourneys, however, and it might make it less like a proper "relegation league" like you see in sports.

Sorry for the double post! I was just checking the tournament, and here are the results so far:

HHH: 4-1 (All games completed)

Me: 3-0 (2 games in progress*)

Farragut: 2-2 (1 game in progress)

Domenico: 0-2 (2 games in progress*)

Warlord: 2-2 (1 game in progress)

Blue Mokey: 0-4 (0 games in progress**)

-This could end up being a bit tight. What happens in the event of a tie (as would still be possible with me and Domenico)?

*It says me and Domenico have a game in progress, but it doesn't show up. What's up with that?

** Blue Monkey has finished 4 games, but has none left in progress. In a round-robin tournament, does a player stop getting new games once they are mathematically eliminated?

Thanks a bunch for the great idea, and for being a easy to contact on the forums! It might actually be a good idea to start a massive FFA game with all players (whole league or group by group) solely for updates/information.

Group E is underway: http://WarLight.net/MultiPlayer.aspx?TournamentID=2197

Remember, you can check the progress of all the groups (5 so far) by checking the links in this thread.

Texas John: I've tried to give you some detailed answers to your questions in a new game invite.

So even a member cannot create games with more than 24. Fair play. Here is my idea:

For each "league" always have a player (a responsilbe one!) as "spokesman". The "spokesmen" can then be invited to a game with you, "the Commish". Obviously this is not a perfect solution (as some players are foreign, others are illiterite) but it is a working start, and definitely the easiest way to contact everyone, or at least most players. Obviously the forums are where the league was created, but some are not as active as others.

i will like to be a spokes person

OK, thanks. I like the idea of game chats to replace cluttering up this thread too much. What I propose to do is to set up a "non-join" 24 person FFA that is open to all current participants for the purposes of discussing improvements to the League and overall structure.

If you want to be in on this League Development chat, let me know here (or, even better, in a 1v1 invite) and I'll add you. TexasJohn and IronHeart, you'll be invited.

If you are happy to just go with the flow and don't need to be involved in this kind of detail, ****you will still get essential updates and results here****. Hopefully, there won't be more than 24 who will want to be a part of this chat group.

I don't think we necessarily need a rep. from each group as those groups will be constantly changing anyway.

I like the idea of six players a group as well, eight is not such a great idea. Also I like the idea of a large chain of groups.
John, seriously? You're unbeaten and beat Heyheuhei. If you're average, then we're mediocre at best.
Also, the idea of Blue Monkey not getting a game anymore would be weird: his game could be important for the rest. And if you look at the results, you can deduce that his final game is against me.

Domenico, Chokecherry and I figured out that it was just an issue of you being on vacation. In fact, my game against you was merely buried amongst other games. look forward to getting it over with, and hopefully being promoted. Or, as members of the original grouping, we just stay in the "top" group?

Dom, my win against HHH was a fluke, I think. I have played him in other 1v1 games, and he has trashed me. Pretty sure I just got lucky, but sometimes that's enough. The others have been pretty easy, although I am always concerned when I have to play against you.

Well, I'm having trouble fighting Farragut now, and if he wins I am automatically relegated to Group C next season, because, even if I win against John and Blue Monkey and Warlord loses his last game, he will become fourth because he won against me.

By the way, if Farragut, Warlord and I end up with 2 wins, meaning I would have won against Farragut, who wins?
Farragut won against Warlord, who won against me, but I (would have) won against Farragut. So who'd become third?

Also, I wonder why John's concerned about playing against me...

I would be interested in joining when you start the next season.

Well, just for clarity's sake: are Group D and E now in the first season?

Group D is part of Season 2 and E is part of Season 3. They are getting head starts. Domenico, I've invited you to the discussion tourney where you can see and discuss these details.

Elledee33, you're in time to be invited to group E, check your tourney invites.

Anakin Chigurh, if you're out there, check your tourney invites.

Cant group E be a part of season 2?

There's a domino effect that prevents it. I've invited you to the development chat, ineffable.

could i join a group? it looks fun