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MANAGER LEAGUE discussion: 4/15/2012 15:11:38


myhandisonfire 
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This is the discussion thread, post your question and ideas here.

http://wiki.warlight.net/index.php/Manager_League
MANAGER LEAGUE discussion: 4/15/2012 15:44:57

Hennns
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Can I be both a player and a Investor/fan?
MANAGER LEAGUE discussion: 4/15/2012 15:54:18


J Russell Mikkelsen 
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Well, you said not to post in the other threads with questions, so I'll ask it here. Can you clarify the role of the investor? What does investing entail? How do they participate in the league? Only during drafting? Only between seasons?
MANAGER LEAGUE discussion: 4/15/2012 16:10:04


myhandisonfire 
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The investor was basically created for those wanting a less active role in the manager league. It can be either played as a fan for a particular club, or as an investor who eventually may have the chance to take over a certain badly managed (thus lower valued) club somewhen in the future. Investors will be given a certain amount of money which they can use to buy shares of a club (free for redistribution every new season), giving the manager of that club a certain bonus income to invest in better players. For the time being its only an idea but we are working on making real. It might step by step, given enough interest by the community, become more and more complex.

Players, Managers and Investors will all have a certain income. While players and managers for the time being will most likely be restricted in investing only into shares of the own club, Investors will be entirely free how to distribute their money(since they have no affiliation and can take no direct influence). They might (MIGHT at this point, since that can mean a lot of work) be able to bet on the outcome of certain games.
MANAGER LEAGUE discussion: 4/15/2012 16:10:32

unknownsoldier 
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you, the investor, gives the manager money. he uses it to buy players. (the manager also has a default amount of capital eg $1000).

we are thinking that manager and players are the main people in this game. but that investing in clubs is a nice way for everyone to speculate a bit on the league, managers, etc.

if you think a manager will do well, you can invest your standard eg $10 of WL capital in that club. at the end of the season, you get a fraction of the club's profits (if any) due to prizes for league position and sales of players.
MANAGER LEAGUE discussion: 4/15/2012 16:11:30


myhandisonfire 
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Also Investors will have minimum games restriction , to prevent newly created accounts from taking advantage of the system.
MANAGER LEAGUE discussion: 4/16/2012 03:29:24

[REGL]Nighthawk30
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When will we learn who are the players/investors/managers?
MANAGER LEAGUE discussion: 4/16/2012 07:21:58


myhandisonfire 
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In a few days. First I want to make sure that the majority has taken note of the recruitment.
MANAGER LEAGUE discussion: 4/16/2012 15:44:13


J Russell Mikkelsen 
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|> Also Investors will have minimum games restriction , to prevent newly created accounts from taking advantage of the system.

Shouldn't there be a minimum number of days since joining Warlight? I mean, you can play 100 games a day if you wanted to, you'd probably lose most of them due to the volume, but you could. I've barely cracked 100 ranked games myself, but I've been playing steadily for over a year and even made a map.
MANAGER LEAGUE discussion: 4/16/2012 16:07:29


NecessaryEagle 
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not sure if this has been presented before, but wouldn't running this off of an external site be more efficient? you could still have recruitment threads but have all the info and everything on another site. This would cut down on the amount of threads you need to run this, the clutter (because you can delete useless posts) and also allow you to simply change charts/data/etc. instead of re-posting it.

If you do decide to go with this option, I would suggest using "webs.com" since it's the easiest free site out there. You can make a whole site in as much time as it takes to type the info you want on it :D.
MANAGER LEAGUE discussion: 4/16/2012 16:21:57


myhandisonfire 
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@mikelsen that would work too. I dont expect much abuse actually. Its just precaution.

@Eagleblast, yeah i considered it, but there are pros and cons. The number of threads created will decline once the league officially started, but for the time being this forum reaches the most people and not a far off external site, that only a few will ever visit. Once the league is running and has a steady fanbase it`s a different matter.
MANAGER LEAGUE discussion: 4/19/2012 13:46:50


[REGL] Pooh 
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Question About Player Salary:

As a potential Player, why would I want to exact a larger fee than the minimum per my band?

A personally higher player salary will only strap my team for cash and weaken it overall, plus cause us to lose the team with the most money category.

Below idea is to sorta add capitalism to the mix:

A combined Free Agent/Auction system - Example: Team 1 has MVP1 on his team at a salary. Then, at the next round, the Team 1 Manager has first right to either give the player a set minimum raise (~5%) or keep the salary the same, or drop him.

Then;
-If the player gets a minimum raise, then he's retained for the next season and no longer a free agent.
-If he's dropped, any manager can buy him for the minimum price.
-If he's kept the same, he becomes a free agent and other team managers can buy the player for a set minimum raise (~10%). The player must transfer to the higher bidder. If no other managers want to pay the premium, then he stays on the same team.
MANAGER LEAGUE discussion: 4/19/2012 14:35:23

unknownsoldier 
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hi John - well, in the 'winning' section of the wiki, we say that players are judged (in large part) on how much money they make.

there is a 'prize' for being the richest player - we will rank players on how much they are paid over the season.

(so yes, winning the league, and winning your games, are also good, but we think that this ranking will make players ask for the best salary they can get - after all, it is about the only cost to the clubs - if the manger doesn't pay you well, he just uses the money to pay another player well).
MANAGER LEAGUE discussion: 4/19/2012 14:51:08


[REGL] Pooh 
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Oh, I though the highest money prize was only to the club.

I saw the club had other expenses such as "Club Improvements" that as a Team Player, I'd rather have a better team with nice improvements.

The prize for player will help players demand money, thanks!
MANAGER LEAGUE discussion: 4/19/2012 15:00:19


myhandisonfire 
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We will also introduce some RPG elements, so that earning more money will make sense.
MANAGER LEAGUE discussion: 4/19/2012 15:23:11


Ska2D2 
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Heck sorry just saw I posted in the wrong place - so many threads >.<

Copy - paste:

Hi myhand first - good on you and everyone helping set this up it really is a novel and interesting idea.

My first observation on the player division is that the classes have unequal numbers of players i.e 10 class 3 players - 4 class 2 players etc.

There are 6 teams right? I think anyway. So every team can't have a player from each class. How do you plan to keep the teams of equal strength? (I know truely equal isn't possible - but i'm guessing you are aiming for fairness?)

Edit 15 class 3s
MANAGER LEAGUE discussion: 4/19/2012 15:33:19


Major Risk 
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Hi good job of organising myhand and unknown...
When do we hear what Home Map the managers have picked?
Or is the home map and settings not permanent for the season but temporary and can change every game?
MANAGER LEAGUE discussion: 4/19/2012 15:35:06

unknownsoldier 
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Ska - there are 4 teams in Season Beta.

we rated players as best we could, it just happened there they fell into those categories. if managers really want a player, they will have to bid more than th other teams (and therefore have less so spend on the rest of the squad).
MANAGER LEAGUE discussion: 4/19/2012 15:36:36


myhandisonfire 
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The map will be like your stadium
The club will be able to add a heated lawn for a few dollars (change settings on the map, but rebuilding the stadium will be more expensive (changing map)
MANAGER LEAGUE discussion: 4/19/2012 17:55:40


Frankdeslimste • apex 
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I think I know what Gui's 'stadium' will be. :p
MANAGER LEAGUE discussion: 4/19/2012 18:03:49


Gnullbegg 
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NOH!
CHINA GIEF TURTLE HEAD PAIN!

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Would be cool if some Manager chose Middle Earth or Westeros as home turf. Or would those be too big? Westeros is also a bit imbalanced... :/
You as the organizers will probably want to have a say in the choice of stadiums, right?
MANAGER LEAGUE discussion: 4/19/2012 18:10:31


Frankdeslimste • apex 
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If I was a manager I would pick the duel map as 'stadium'.
MANAGER LEAGUE discussion: 4/19/2012 19:14:36


myhandisonfire 
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The "stadium" has to be approved by the league commision. Duel will definitely not.
MANAGER LEAGUE discussion: 4/19/2012 19:53:10


Frankdeslimste • apex 
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That's why I brought that map up since that is the worst example I could come up with, it does make me wonder though what criteria will you use to approve or disprove a map?
MANAGER LEAGUE discussion: 4/19/2012 19:55:09


Hurricane
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What happens when 2 teams choose the same home map?
MANAGER LEAGUE discussion: 4/19/2012 19:58:55


myhandisonfire 
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then both happen to have the same home map
MANAGER LEAGUE discussion: 4/19/2012 20:01:09


Luxis • apex 
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Having the same home map as another team would be kind of dull and ruin the advantage being on your home map. At least two teams should not be able to have identical home maps including settings etc.
MANAGER LEAGUE discussion: 4/19/2012 20:07:41


Gnullbegg 
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Well I'm all for variety so I hope there will be lots of different "stadiums" but approving one manager's choice while denying another one's of the same map is just arbitrary.
MANAGER LEAGUE discussion: 4/19/2012 20:10:46


Ska2D2 
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Simplez - Rock Paper Scissors
MANAGER LEAGUE discussion: 4/19/2012 20:25:52


The 1e Orange
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On what time will the game's be?
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