Falker, I didn't tell you because Michael asked me to keep it quiet as much as possible because he didnt want to hurt gnuffones reputation. It was only when the game was almost over that I learned of it, and by that time, I was just thrilled to win the tournament, confident we would have even if gnuffone had not cheated.

I told people I was being puppeted by Gnuffone the whole time, I made no attempt to keep it a secret. I didn't mind being the puppet of my mentor, and I didn't want to let Gnuffone down. Now, I learned my lesson and will never allow someone to puppet me again.

Qi, I apologize for being mad at you early in the thread, although in my defense, I didn't know most of these scandals.

Why were people so willing to give him their passwords anyhow?

Notice how many of them have been top in at least one ladder.

I'm just sayin'

wow @ this thread

In nations cup , gnuffone logged in to the account of his friend Flyng tucano , and changed pw and mail, he is a thief, only at now fizzer , with an excellent work , returned the account at his rightful owner.

I heard from Flyng that in mail of tucano there was the mail account of trollussa,fridge ,sze and maybe piggy, so look attention , this guy is dangerous!

say whaat?

Wow. Kinda creepy, kinda impressive. Did WM know about all of this and keep quiet?

@Fridge, to avoid mistakes,better if you talk directly to him, im only reporting materials that agry peoples gift to me.

Gnuffles,stole the account of an old elite player (Orange), to spy elite clan chat, to spy second elite clan chat made by mutineers , and if they invited him to relite/gg (i dont remember) he have spy for sure also them.

gnuffles, deleted an hilarious conversation where he was accusing fizzer to create alts , and to change luck in his favour and he pretend to demonstrate that fizzer was cheating

How come this thread is not notable yet? Most important and entertaining thread since a long time actually.

Gnuffgate is leading to Fizzergate. This is how scandals develop. They tend to be interconnected.

"Why were people so willing to give him their passwords anyhow?" Gnuffgate is also a sex scandal.

"...in my defense, I didn't know most of these scandals." Nobody did/does. Gnuff's arrogance and minor cheating was well known. But few knew how far he would go to pad his stats or appear better than he is/was. What normal people do to pad their stats is child's play for Gnuff. When he first started playing WL he cheated and did things others would never think of. As he learned more about how WL functions, his cheating only became more advanced. He graduated from playing multiple accounts in a 1v1 tournament to playing multiple accounts in the 1v1 ladder; from playing team games all by himself to gain an advantage, to using an alt or friend's account in his opponents' team.

Gnuff is currently asking people in 20 to take screen shots of our conversations there. Even as Gnuffgate rages, he is using Tricky Dick Nixon tactics! No wonder why he was upset when I booted his alt from 20. 20 became the only major clan he didn't have a spy account in.

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From what I understand, Gnuffone had 1-2 alts in gg, master of strategy for sure, and possibly yoda. He once showed me a pic of apex chat back when I was there that I am not sure how he got, he said he has an alt in there but I think that is completely false. He also told me some alts of his that I am very confident he was lying about, and had me convinced for a time that szeweningen=Odin, and jv=pulsey(I can't believe either of these anymore). The 14-3 loss to relite really got to him I think, and he tried his best to cheat gg as much as possible. He also says he has an alt in 101st, but I never figured out who exactly it was, or if he was just making it up. Also, I think master clan is without a doubt, free from gnuffones influence, the ones that seem like they could possibly be alts in the clan have much better English than Gnuffone does. I'm pretty sure he also has a viw alt, but wg appears relatively alt free(except for verz and i don't think he's gnuffone). Ahol is alt free I am sure.

So from what I see, Gnuffone likes to spy on clans that are one of the following: 1. Easy to get into, 2. A threat to WMs power

Using these observations, 101st, viw both fit #1, and 20 and apex and gg and wg fit into #2.

Which makes me ask the question, why has he not put an alt in wg yet? Their prereqs are not hard, verz is very likely an alt and they allowed him in, so why has Gnuffone not put one in here? Or has he?

I can't believe he has an alt in apex bc their clan is different than most. Pretty much to get into apex, u need to be at least a good player but also be fairly well known by the community. This clan is the hardest to get an alt in I think.

Search your clan for Gnuffone alts, look for him saying very little, bad English when he does talk. Don't just assume everyone who doesn't talk much is Gnuffone though, they could also be GUI (jk) or at least I think I'm kidding.

Gnuff has an alt in 20. It is HHH.

Nah, hhh is too good to be Gnuffone. Gnuffone can only dream of his skills.

This thread is very sad, but I guess the truth should be revealed. I really don't like this, and would prefer to not know about this at all, but knowing only half-truth is really not right.

I'm afraid some accusation may not be true, but given current attitude towards Gnuffone are taken as granted without proper evidence...

Yea, that's the core issue to me now, for some things stated here so far I've seen no actual evidence that Gnuffone did them. I'm not saying he didn't, or that he is completely innocent, as I'm convinced he did some of those, some things have been proven enough to me. But about some things here all I know is that "player A", "B", "C" etc. said so...

So, yea, post some evidence please.

You can tell HHH is an alt because he is relatively new, hasn't played many games and is pretty much unknown by the community. I can't believe nobody noticed it sooner.

Master of Strategy talked very little, and didn't play in any games apart from GG tournaments and clan challenges. As far as I remember, his English was better than Gnuffone's, though. I think he put in some extra effort here.

By the way, the only time I joined a livestreamed tournament was because Master of Strategy kept bugging me that he wants to play with me and learn from me. What a waste of time:

http://warlight.net/MultiPlayer?GameID=4321803

He told me all these things on Skype, perhaps I can quote it to you on there if you consider that proof (it'd take a very long time to find these things though since we talked a ton).

I think when me and Belzebub, or Belzebub and Michael both are saying Gnuffone did these things, they are true. As Belzebub has said, him and I are pretty much sworn enemies, same with him and Michael. Fridge also backed me and Michael up on the [20a] thing and fridge is the only guy to stand by Gnuffone still. When 3 players that were friends with gnuffone on here all turn on him (Belzebub, myself, flying burrito), it seems indisputable that he did most of these things. I tend to be an honest person, and while I don't really trust Beelzebub much, Gnuffone and he were very good friends on warlight, and people have already backed up some of what he said, so I am inclined to believe him. Plus I definitely believe Gnuffpme being two faced because he often said longhouse and anonymous were bad at team games to me, and also said GUI was better in the past, hhh is overrated, etc.

So, I should simply trust in what 3 people say? That might be enough only if stated properly, enough detailed, checked... so far some of those seem really chaotic. The accusation should be more specific, have some references, etc. And read my post properly, like I said, some things are not properly proved, some of them are.

I really would like to know how people know this and that, who can also confirm that it is true (and how they know), etc.

I.e. I see you talk about him having alt in apex, which I don't think is possible. Absolutely no chance. Show me that screenshot, quote what he said, and I will decide whether it is enough for me to change my mind, or think how this is possible.

I don't know, maybe I'm just weird, but I'm not so prompt to believe in everything posted here.

EDIT: yea, I know some of those are hard / impossible to prove... still, try if you can.

EDIT 2 (specially for TWM, underlined key words): SOME THINGS ARE NOT PROPERLY PROVED, SOME OF THEM ARE.

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Well we know for sure that gnuffone multi accounted in the ladder to get himself to #1 with an insane rating by beating his alt dark vengeance. That is solid fact.

There's is tons of evidence that gnuffone used fridges account. Read the team chat that Falker posted. I think it explains itself

And flying bender himself admitted that gnuffone himself used his account to cheat

We also know for a fact that gnuffone talks trash behind people's back. Sure a lot of players do that, but his is excessive. JSA had showed me the chat.

So there we have 3 solid records of him cheating and one of him being a arrogant/dick player

Good enough for you wiz? :P

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