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Level 4: 4/6/2010 11:49:38

Forest
Level 3
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I'm a newbie, but I've played level 4 over and over and am not making much headway. Can anyone share some strategy tips?
Level 4: 4/6/2010 15:59:15


Emperor B
Level 30
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The secret to my success on Level 4 was to airlift the armies to my AI teammate. I also reinforced my AI periodically "earned" reinforcements.
Level 4: 4/7/2010 06:52:22


protagoras007 
Level 34
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I'm curious about how many players have beat level 4 so far.
Level 4: 4/7/2010 10:14:33

BM123432 
Level 7
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I found the key to beating this level was tenacity.. you really gotta take bonuses and wear down the AI armies while slowly expanding. Some points I was letting huge armies wreak havoc across my "land" without even trying to stop them so I could secure other bonuses or take theirs
Level 4: 4/7/2010 19:46:50

The Impaller 
Level 9
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I beat it by expanding as fast as possible in every possible direction each turn. I made special effort to cut off computer bonuses, and tried to assist my ally in doing the same.
Level 4: 4/10/2010 07:07:21

JHawk24821
Level 10
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Level 1: Won in 6 turns
Level 2: Won in 15 turns
Level 3: Won in 21 turns
Level 4: Won in 35 turns
Challenge 1: Won in 25 turns
Level 4: 4/13/2010 16:49:41

That Jerk
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I concur, level 4 wasn't very hard, but the levels aren't supposed to be. I found having an AI ally the most difficult part of the setup. The challenges, now those were made hard for a reason.
Level 4: 4/13/2010 18:30:47


protagoras007 
Level 34
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Not bad, guys.
Level 4: 4/13/2010 23:11:03

The Impaller 
Level 9
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I'm interested to see what the least amount of turns it has taken someone to beat this level is.
Level 4: 4/14/2010 02:47:03

CSD
Level 2
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I eventually beat level 4 in 34 turns, but it took me about 8 tries.

As Emperor B pointed out, the key is to throw LOTS of armies at your ally to keep him from getting blown out. I sent ALL of my reinforcements for the first 3-4 turns from Scotland to Norway so my ally could repel the inevitable invasion from Denmark, and then sent the first 200 airlift reinforcements to support him in places where he was getting into trouble (but not hopelessly outnumbered). My own expansion was calculated to grab France and Germany as quickly as possible, then to expand broadly with an emphasis on denying the enemy reinforcements by taking bits of regions as quickly as possible.

And this is probably obvious, but don't waste time conquering worthless territories (Spain, Italy, etc.) until you've secured the good ones and are in mop-up mode.
Level 4: 4/14/2010 05:31:49

CSD
Level 2
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Hmm. I tried this again and (after two false starts) won in 26 turns. I hadn't previously realized that AI allies will forgive any transgression. Abuse them as you see fit.
Level 4: 4/15/2010 12:35:07

That Jerk
Level 3
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The key is first taking bonuses away from the enemy and second bolstering your own income. The key to using you ally Is reinforcing him (airlift mostly) such that the computer AI can't control bonuses. If your AI partner were smart he would try to keep bonuses too, but alas, he cannot. Of course, you do need to secure yourself with a decent income before worrying about taking away too many enemy bonuses. The wildcard is that the enemy AI does choose to try to attack or defend its territory in different places if you play the map more than once (I was in mop up and accidentally hit the back button on my mouse, so I had to restart the level once).
Level 4: 4/18/2010 13:22:17

PotatoMcWhiskey
Level 2
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I just charged into Europe from britain and used the reinforcements myself...

1st priority - France, then Spain+Italy, from there it was a walk. Just took a lot of turns to burn through Europe as it's a huge map.
Level 4: 5/1/2010 05:04:29


Unyoto 
Level 12
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I've only done it once, but manage to win in 29 turns. I went the way of Potato on this one as well. I reinforced my ally a bit, but used all the bonus armies for myself. I took a large counter-clockwise loop around the map. Spain and Portugal are actually good bonuses to take since they are pretty easy to defend and fairly quick to conquer. I used my bonus armies to head off any large armies the opponent was throwing down and looped around through Italy before pushing through the heart Germany. The middle countries on this map can be hard to hold a bonus in until you have a solid amount of armies, which is why I avoided them until I had a good amount of reinforcements coming every turn.
Level 4: 5/1/2010 13:31:40


iταsτεlikεсαndy 
Level 10
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Level 4: Won in 27 turns

took me a few times, but eventually i beat it!
Level 4: 5/1/2010 13:35:47


protagoras007 
Level 34
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Im wondering if my 25 on level 4 is the record?
Level 4: 5/1/2010 22:14:17


les 
Level 6
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Got it in 19 after a couple dozen retries and with a good bit of luck. Used a wall of about 10 against the enemy AI, and airlifted a wall in front of their massive armies when it was obvious where they would move. Captured France, Spanish peninsula, then spearheaded into the rest reinforcing and expanding behind.
I noticed the card distribution and airlifted armies increased about a month ago, but I wish they hadn't.
Good luck.
Level 4: 5/1/2010 22:55:30


Doushibag 
Level 16
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Mor has a record of 15 turns for level 4.
http://www.warlight.net/Profile.aspx?p=87496906
He tends to replay the levels/challenges until he has a low score. He usually manages to get the record for each.
Level 4: 5/2/2010 04:52:40


Foucauldian
Level 4
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i'm with the original post, i've tried a dozen different ways to beat this one and i can't figure it out. Are you supposed to just airlift your whole army to the russians? i can't take france because i'm only resupplied 13 armies compared to the germans getting what, 50? 60? each turn? i don't get this level because there seems to be no way to counter their advantage in resupply, they mass significantly larger armies in france then we're given to start the game. i get to the shore of the Mediterranean and then the germans have 80 armies on corsicia? i don't see how wining in 20-something tries is feasible. Any strategies, aside from 'take france first' because i can't do that either...

yeah, i guess i suck
Level 4: 5/2/2010 20:14:18


Doushibag 
Level 16
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I found it fairly easy, but I did fail my first two tries for two specific reasons before I beat it on my 3rd try. The first try I failed miserably because I didn't notice that in relation to the Europe map the bonuses are all custom. Look at the values of the bonuses and you will see the relevant ones and others made mostly irrelevant as far as income goes. The second time I failed because I gave no armies to my ally because the AI's are generally stupid, although as I quickly realized not useless in this case.

I think the important thing to realize is that you start with a stack of armies and an income advantage. Whenever that is the case it's usually best to be very aggressive and take advantage of your army stacks before the opponent is able to catch up with their higher income.

I think with those tips you should find it easier.
Level 4: 5/4/2010 03:22:35


Foucauldian
Level 4
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Yeah ok i guess i was a bit of a tosser but now i've figured it all out. You've really just got to jeep trying different things, but making sure to concentrate on France and predicting their placement is the way to go. Challenge 1 on the other hand i've yet to figure out...
Level 4: 5/6/2010 06:01:57

The Republic of Joe
Level 2
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I had a very tough time with level 4, too. Eventually I figured out that you need to supply your ally with reinforcements. If you give them all of your 360 reserves, and any other of your forces, they'll be able to use them effectively, while you attack eastward. I ended up beating it in 23 turns. I was quite proud of myself.
Level 4: 5/10/2010 00:57:15

DAC
Level 3
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So I am playing level 4, and Russia keeps taking over my territories. I've ended up encircling a small enclave of territory they captured from Germany via Scandinavia (I was sending troops from Scotland) and every couple turns they take over another of my territories. Is this normal?
Level 4: 5/11/2010 01:54:00

cwoozy
Level 2
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It took more turns than most people, but I didn't really think it was hard. Basically, I put most of my reinforcements into Scandanavia for my ally, and by the time I had taken France and part of Germany, the ally had mopped up everything else.
Level 4: 5/12/2010 05:49:29


Ruthless 
Level 36
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I just played it for the first time and beat it in 19 moves.

15 seems pretty achievable as I played a little sloppy. I'm pretty sure if I play it again, I could get a lower turn count.

For everyone that is wondering what my strategy was, I moved those two 50 sized armies north immediately and then attacked France with my two starting spots, deploying on the right one. I kept retrying the level if I didn't take both territories in France (with luck, it can be taken first move). After that, I just took the Norway bonus(with the big stack, let the AI keep his bonus until the enemy is about to break it) from my AI and stopped the initial denmark advance while moving my big force up north. I ended up leaving the Sweden bonus for my AI and I accidentally transferred about 50 troops to my AI, which turned out quite nice because the AI helps you get your Card Pieces which can get your Airlifts out quicker and also he bonus breaks the other AI pretty well. Then from that initial start, I just slowly worked the AI in France while breaking inner bonuses and taking the spanish peninsula. My advance through Italy was VERY slow, you can tell where you need to go by the size of the bonuses. My airlifts were to Barcelona, then Lapland, then Brest (all of the airlifts were to myself, and to places where there was either a big stack (the first 2) or quick expansion needed). Then while just knocking his big armies down, I expanded south and took him over. The AI was trying to make a move in the middle but residual troops did the job. Overall, I played kinda sloppy and made some mistakes in expansion and I could have defeated him quicker.

Main Points:

-Move North Quick with your extra 100 troops.
-Airlift to yourself in places where you see his big stacks
-Always be bonus breaking and expanding
-Your AI is your friend, he is there to get your card pieces faster
-Don't be afraid to attack your ally when needed
-After you get the France, Spain, Portugal bonuses..focus North to knock down his other big armies.

I hope this helps others in their attempt to beat level 4/lower their turn count.
Level 4: 6/7/2010 01:33:10


Particle Man
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Took me couple trys thinking i was getting crushed early on, but on my 3rd try i decided to play it through, and found out it wasnt as hard as it seemed, just took time. Key to winning for me was to simply take out his bonuses, while reinforicing your teammates troops as much as you can. little by little try and take over territories you can keep like spain and italy, and he will die down...
Level 4: 6/24/2010 06:49:29


NotEliTanenbaum 
Level 55
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For some reason when I tried this level, using the airlifts with the 120s didn't occur to me. :P This made it take 2 tries to win. Pretty much what's already stated, smash the bonuses, overextend like it's actually a good thing. Concentrate your armies on one goal, then move to another, then another, then another, then another...
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