I live in the United States of America and am proud of it. I want to start a new group for people who live in the US and would like to meet other people on Warlight from the US. All you have to do is add [USA] in front of your name and post on this forum. It is okay if you are part of other clans such as [WM],[REGL],[X],[P],etc.

I live in the USA, and so do a crap load of other Warlight players.

Not gonna put [USA] in front of my name though.

About one-third of the forum users is from the US, so there's no need to set up a group for them.

Must resist posting on forums... can't resist

seriously you just made that account just to make that god dam clan wth? i be surpired if anyone joins it.

plus as it has already been stated to many people on this site are from usa.. hey i know let make a clan for Europe people next

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Pity, I was hoping to look at his old name, to know who is trolling.

Sincerely yours,
[NL] [EU] RvW


ps. That EU is for Europe, not European Union; people from Ukraine, Switzerland, Russia, etc. are also welcome! If they ask politely we might even accept people from New Amsterdam (or what's it called nowadays?).

Why are you proud of that?

I'm proud to be an American.

And I don't see anything wrong with one taking pride in where one's from.

No need to be defensive, he just asked why.

It's an interesting question, I think. Why are you proud of your country Boston?

Well its good that there are people who are proud of America, so that we can keep that top spot, at least for the little time we left with it.

Personally I just don't see a reason to. 50+ years ago, sure, then was a reason to be proud. With whats going on now... Nope.

We have freedom. We live in one of the most powerful countries in the world. We dominate in the Olympics. We have the strongest military in the world. Why wouldn't you be proud of the US?

Seems like you're just grateful of the benefits you receive by living in the US.
Being PROUD of what we do as a country is a different thing entirely.

@Proud to be an American:

|>|>Why wouldn't you be proud of the USA?

Before I write up the few reasons for which I am still proud, I'd just like to say that if you honestly can't answer that question, you have answered your own question far better than anyone else will.

From a personal view, I find it difficult to express pride in a membership that did not require some hard work on my part. How I feel about being from the USA is much more complicated than pride. One should be proud of being a millionaire who started in poverty, but should one be proud to be a particular ethnicity? I think our Constitution and democratic, transparent government are wonderful examples. I wouldn't want to live anywhere else in the world. But pride? Just doesn't seem to fit, since really it was just an accident of birth that I was born to US citizens. Patriotic, sure, but probably not prideful about being from the USA.

Hi all,

First of all I'd like to say I'm European and I have no problems with people from the US. Actually most of them I have met are great people.

Also, it's quite natural to find pride in one's country, even if there are many reasons not to. But IMHO, if you think about it, it's a bit stupid to be proud about things you haven't decided or achieved yourself: it's like being proud of being a brunette, or being straight (or gay), or living in the 21st Century.

In any case, I am a bit surprised for the reasons given for being proud of the US, as for me, they seem to be the reasons to be ashamed of it! Let me explain myself:

- "We have freedom". I don't think there is much more freedom in the US than in most 1st world countries. For starters, in Politics, I don't think you have more choices than to vote to Republicans or Democrats. Then you have the freedom to buy different brands of the same product, but that's about it. For example, in my humble country, I have the freedom to marry to another male if I want to, I don't see that happening in the US in the near future.

- "We live in one of the most powerful countries in the world". Well, probably in the most powerful one, but I'm not so sure that can be a reason to be proud. Your government has done (and will have to do) many many horrible things to stand in that position: invading countries for their resources, placing dictators in certain countries, dropping nuclear bombs against civilians, etc. Empires need to do these things to keep being empires, but admit they are quite ugly.

- We dominate in the Olympics. Well, I think that's a feeble reason to be proud, you have more population plus more resources for having people dedicated just to sports. It's maybe because I am gay, but I have never seen any reason to be proud about a local athlete: I would be more proud about scientists, scholars, writers... And you have many of those too!

- We have the strongest military in the world. Well that has a lot to do with what I said about being an Empire. You NEED to have the strongest military, and personally, I would be ashamed of the huge amounts of money that are spent in the military when you don't even have a welfare system. I am sure much of that money would be more useful to US population if spent in education, for example.

Again, I have nothing against American people, it's not your fault to have been born in the world's current leading empire, and for sure you are not responsible of all the stuff I have mentioned, but think twice about what are you proud of! I have never been there but I am sure you have many many other things to be proud of: mix of ethnicities and cultures, cultural relevance, etc.

Sorry for my bad English!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wyGGG1I-rf8&feature=related

[USA] Proud just wants a little love, man. Foxy.

Excellent point by NoZone.

I have patriotism, but not really proud. I didn't fight for the freedoms I have. And while we do have many more civil liberties than most countries, there are still elected officials that do not believe in equal rights for all races/religions/sexes.

There needs to be some major changes in politics before I am proud. But certainly I am patriotic.

"personally, I would be ashamed of the huge amounts of money that are spent in the military when you don't even have a welfare system. I am sure much of that money would be more useful to US population if spent in education, for example."

Funny how I have worked on US defense projects that were going to support Denmark's military and communications ability. And I am quite certain that Denmark didn't have to pay the R+D costs... they left that up to the American public.

I love my country, but hate my government. We've been heading down the wrong path now for some time, and our politicians are content to let the train crash. Lately their is not much reason to be proud of my country, yet I'd still do anything to defend it and my countrymen. I'm thinking the U.S. is about to go through a time of great change in the next decade and I hope it'll be for the better. It can't get a whole lot worse without things collapsing(though it might be better to just start over from scratch.)

Being proud of one's birthplace is only natural. Very few people are ashamed of their country. SUre, America has done some totally shitty things, from the get go. Slavery, the way we treated the native peoples, the way we treated anyone who wasn't a white Protestant male, etc. Still, I am perfectly happy not living there. America is pretty cool, bros. Still, I am American by birth, but Texan by the grace of God (I am not religious, nor did I make that up myself, although I wish I had). Everyone should be proud of where they are from, because otherwise they wouldn't be the same person. And I say all of this as a relatively informed American. The vast majority of my friends aren't even FROM America. As of now, my closest friends are from damned near everywhere. Belgium, England (oi oi oi), Oz, Norway, China, even Austria.

And to whomever said that the US is dominant in the Olympics due merely to the population, I would be happy to point out the fact that China is pretty shitty in most proper sports, despite having 1.3-1.5 billion people.

China have a massive population but that population doesnt have access to the training and facilities that most Americans (and British etc) have access to.