The logo is not early 2000, it's like early 90s when everyone thought gradients and wordtext were the coolest things in the world. Do I like it? Kinda. Will the majority of people like it? No. Cut majorly back on the black.

http://gyazo.com/23f628a40afba6927ffa1e77567fe777.png

Red generally inspires lust, excitement, and love. White generally inspires happiness, sincerity, and purity. Black generally inspires sophistication, fear, and grief. I guess my point here is that black inspires more negative emotions than positive when it comes to how a person is going to feel when they're browsing the site. Red and White is good. Black is generally bad for a site.

Are you kidding?
Your "new" design looks like a child played with powerpoint.
Calling it "minimalist" would be politely.
Sorry, i don't like it.

@MetalTubbie

Guys i think you all need to chill a bit. Let's focus on constructive criticism. "I don't like it" can mean anything. I would recommend that you try to be specific about the things you are bothered with, but also mention the things you like (if there are any :D).

Qi :D we should do a collaborative map sometime. It will be pretty and functional :D (not that your maps are ugly, I think they are quite well done)

@ps: Yeah I was thinking of making a drop down menu instead to clean things up and make it easier to read.

@apex: Change the entire header color or just the tabs? I think the dark gray header fits nice with the red and white logo, but tabs are too dark. Maybe I'll make them gray. Think I'll keep the mail icon black though, since it shouldn't stand out unless you got a message.

@Metaltubbie: It's just a first draft with an hour of work. A lot will change and it won't be so empty and powerpoint-like.

I don't really have any problems with the current look (colors, logos, etc). Would a freshen up by nice? Sure. But doesn't matter to me. I am more into functional changes. I want to see many items pulled out of the multiplayer tab. To me it is annoying to load all your games before going to tournament page, design maps, etc. I'd like to see things categorized under tabs better.

Also, is this something Fizzer asked you to do (or will actually consider), or are you just doing it on your own?

Or......what about a pull down menu for each tab? Like if you scroll over community you get a tiny menu with all the options in the sub-menu that's already up there. That way you can go directly to tournaments or forums without having to load your games or the dashboard.

I offered to do it since other risk-based games (atwar) have modern looking sites, which attracts more users. Fizzer already has a lot to do and probably wouldn't have time to clean up the site anytime soon. He's fine with me doing it but he's not sure when he'll implement it.

Edited 2/20/2014 20:30:24

hellokiddies,

Your current proposal looks like it can be done entirely in CSS; no coding changes necessary. Is that because of it being a first draft, our because that's all the freedom Fizzer can give you (at the moment)? That's important to know when giving feedback, as it means things like "redoing menu structure" are off the table.

Regarding your suggestion:
Your new logo does feel more "modern", but (to me) it also looks "thirteen-to-a-dozen mass-produced Flash game" (and thus, does no justice to what WL actually is).

I don't have a strong opinion on dialing up the brightness of the site (black to grey), but it does look fresher. Only problem is, don't forget a large part of the site is not the site itself, but the site being a thin wrapper about the game's Flash window. If the site has a dark grey / white / purple-with-green-dots background, I think it's almost required to let the game display the same dark grey / white / purple-with-green-dots background behind the map. I think you should at the very least make a mockup of that screen to see how it turns out (who knows, I might be wrong).

I like it, and no matter what these guys say. It still looks pretty good, and you must be stuck in the 80's to feel that way 8D.

give me a few days guys. I will make an alternative to the original poster. I've been talking to Fizzer about it as well..

well, like I said I have lots of ideas for the tab structure (you can hit me up via mail as well). As far as the look and colors, I'll let the graphics people figure that out.

Put it to a vote: http://poll.pollcode.com/2419985

jakiller33 - please delete the poll for two reasons:

1) hellokiddy's design is not finished
2) I will show my design in a few days.. so another poll would be an overkill..

Edited 2/20/2014 21:50:13

@RvW: I'm actually trying to do it entirely in CSS as it would be easier to implement.

@Fridge: I didn't think anyone else was working on it. I wouldn't mind if your design was used instead. Can you post some screenshots?

Edited 2/20/2014 21:59:19

I'm the first to admit I'm not a great designer -- I prefer focus mostly on code and game mechanics.

As proof, let's all laugh at WarLight's original design from 2008. http://i.imgur.com/ao0XAkP.png. As Metaltubbie would put it, it looks like a child played with powerpoint.

I'm all for coming up with a new design if someone can make something that's really great. However, I can't guarantee if or when I'll get around to implementing it. Right now I'm dealing with some serious site speed issues as well as a serious bug in the iOS app.

I agree with those who are saying that the functionality should be improved first.

Also, no offense hello kiddies, but the look you're getting isn't quite there. If the current look is 1989, then yours is around '94.

I have no comment on the look, as I am terribly uncreative, and would offer no help in that department. I would like to say those of you who are ripping up Hellokiddies design. Did you not read the post? Maybe you can't read? It clearly says it is a rough draft. The post if for constructive criticism. If your gonna post just to say that looks horrible. Keep it to yourself. No one needs your negativity around here, keep it to yourself.
Thanks

Added a drop down menu.

http://i.imgur.com/Kd6XFw4.png

I like the design! Keep it up!