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Proving grounds, reborn: 2/19/2014 13:02:41


Mudderducker 
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As of the recent departure of JSA, the proving grounds league also with it http://warlight.net/Forum/Thread?ThreadID=6604 . I myself hadn't played on it before, but it looks quite fun. I would like to recreate this league. However I cannot possible do it on my own, doing other things. In fact this is just a idea, to tempt someone to step in and takeover. If your interested please say below.

Edited 2/19/2014 13:02:49
Proving grounds, reborn: 2/19/2014 13:31:01


[WM] ᵀᴴᴱ𝓕𝓻𝓲𝓭𝓰𝓮 
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now [20] league has divisions.. so there's not much point in proving grounds when there is [20]a [20]b [20]c..

the big question is - who will organize next seasons of [20] league.. gui? frankdeslimste? anybody else?
Proving grounds, reborn: 2/19/2014 14:08:06


Mudderducker 
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I don't think [20] fits everyone's skill. I thought that league was just for good players. Proving grounds would be a league to improving players with similar skill levels to mine, higher or lower.

who knows. But I'm guessing I wont be in one, only if there's [20]Z.
Proving grounds, reborn: 2/19/2014 15:25:55


[WM] ᵀᴴᴱ𝓕𝓻𝓲𝓭𝓰𝓮 
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fair enough. That's true - even in [20]c the overall level is quite high.
Proving grounds, reborn: 2/19/2014 16:35:13


Kenny • apex 
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I don't think 1 person should run [20] again. I think we need to come up with a committee of 5 people or so to organize it. I feel like even if JSA wasn't being biased when he was running [20] that some people felt slighted when they expressed their interest and got into a group that they were too skillful for. If we run it using 5 people we could at least spread the bias to random 3-people minimum consensuses.
Proving grounds, reborn: 2/19/2014 16:44:03


[WM] Gnuffone 
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I can help in the future IF you want.
Proving grounds, reborn: 2/19/2014 17:04:46


Mudderducker 
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I can help a bit if need be, even though I'm not taking part. That sounds silly though.
Proving grounds, reborn: 2/19/2014 17:40:23


Bananashake 
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can i possibly join the [20]?

and i might be able to help if needed.
Proving grounds, reborn: 2/19/2014 18:09:01


Mudderducker 
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I very much doubt it banana. These are for good/top players. That's why I thought we should have [Pg] also.
Proving grounds, reborn: 2/19/2014 20:09:58


Bananashake 
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and im not even in the "good/" part? hm..

anyway, thats why i want to join. best way to improve is to play the best.

ps: is there a list of the players in this? i want to see who these players who's "too good for me" are.
Proving grounds, reborn: 2/19/2014 20:34:07


Mudderducker 
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In comparison to the whole of warlight your good status is debatable. Your solid. I didn't mean no offense. The 83 players in front of u on the ladder and more that don't play. ;)
Proving grounds, reborn: 2/19/2014 20:34:40


Ⓖ. Ⓐrun 
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Top 10 ladder standard (with a run started from scratch). In recent times, many top players are pretty low in the ladder but looking at your stats, you won't be considered at their level. After you reach top 20 minimum ask again ;)
Proving grounds, reborn: 2/19/2014 20:48:36


Bananashake 
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are you in it arun? :)

Edited 2/19/2014 20:56:22
Proving grounds, reborn: 2/19/2014 21:53:41


[WM] ᵀᴴᴱ𝓕𝓻𝓲𝓭𝓰𝓮 
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Bananashake - no, as far as i remember, Arun was never invited to any group of [20] league... yet. But that doesn't make you any better. I don't know how good a player you are but here's what you asked for:

I am not entirely sure, but it's likely that every single player in [20]A actually was a ladder #1 at some point (with the exception of non-members from early league when ladder was member-only).
Most of [20]b/c are at least on some templates equally good to the guys from A. Practically all of them capable of taking top of a ladder or already #1s.. Some extremely proficient on their preferred gametypes, most of them exceptionally good all-around.

[20]A league contenders present and past (i might have missed some):

[中国阳朔] V
13Chris37
Anonymous
Aziridine
Beelzebub
Blue Precision
Brisk
dead piggy
Dreuj
dunga
Eitz
EZPickens
Falker
Fatih Sultan Mehmed
Flyfisher
Frankdeslimste
Fridge
Gnuffone
Grona
Heyheuhei
JSA
JUPITER
Lobstrosity
Lollipop Guild
Longhouse
Mannerheim
Marc2013
Monsehnor Chacina
Myhandisonfire
Old Surehand
Ribena
Rubik
Ruthless Bastard
Sakelar
Salah-ad-Din
Szeweningen
TeddyFSB
Timinator
Qi
Unknownsoldier
[20] Wini
Zibik21

some of [20]B/C:

AA Konglaide
Anakin Chigurh
Andersault
Aranka
Artham
Botanator
bzox
CONQUISTADORS
DagenDaDragon
Darkw1ng
Deadam
Dodo commander
Dragon Serum
Ema20
EZPickens
Flyingbender
geeksada
Gman
Gnullbegg
Idfdoggy
Jurassic Park
King Tut
Kutterkoeter
Lolowut
Mentysh
Mian
MilitaryManiac
Nefeli
NoobSchool
Primary Colors
ps
Rayguns
Segrain
Smallman
Summer
Tuor
Venetian Snares
Warlightvet
X
Yoshi


Edited 2/19/2014 21:56:01
Proving grounds, reborn: 2/19/2014 23:34:24


Bananashake 
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tnx fridge.

and fridge!
http://warlight.net/MultiPlayer?GameID=5712161
just want you to suffer a bit ;*

Edited 2/19/2014 23:43:33
Proving grounds, reborn: 2/20/2014 00:41:13


Kenny • apex 
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There aren't really any pre-reqs, but for you to be noticeable enough to be in 20A you have to be able to consistently rank in the top 20 on 1v1 ladder on today's ladder, and a couple top 3s in 2v2 ladder would help you out a lot. Winning hard RRs would be really good as well.. I'll see what I can do and throw some people in a skype convo see what we want to do and how we want to do it. I'm probably not going to be in 20A, atm my skill level is more like uppermid B maybe. Depends on who's interested and such.
Proving grounds, reborn: 2/20/2014 00:48:25


Master Miyagi • apex 
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Bananashake, i had to go meet my gf in 5 minutes, we intended to lose that one in case you hadnt noticed, also the 4 initial armies through me
Proving grounds, reborn: 2/20/2014 00:48:32

Jehovah 
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my ladder stats beat lolowut's. if hes 20B i'm 20A.

banana clan sucks, is that relevant?

banana you definitely arent good nor top. you are bad.

Edited 2/20/2014 00:49:59
Proving grounds, reborn: 2/20/2014 11:07:31


♈§IRIÜS♈ 
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I wonder if i have a chance for 20[C]?
Proving grounds, reborn: 2/20/2014 11:34:41


The Great Pulsius 
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Now that Jay has left us, Pulsey should organize next 20A for us.
Proving grounds, reborn: 2/20/2014 13:13:57


Pink 
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i am 2 good for [20]A
Proving grounds, reborn: 2/20/2014 13:30:44

Qi 
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I'd like to pick templates, if people play again. There are some good new maps worth playing. The purpose of the 20 tournaments was to play good/great underplayed maps that involve a good deal of strategy (and not play 1v1 or 2v2 Medium Earth until after exhausting all other possibilities) in order to challenge top players to think...And then JSA picked the maps played all the damn time.

Why make a special tournament if the templates don't have anything special, unique, novel, interesting or fun about them? People can play the ladders if they want redundancy.

Edited 2/20/2014 13:33:04
Proving grounds, reborn: 2/20/2014 13:57:38


Mudderducker 
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Anyway I like to be in [20]c I'm trying to lower my games now. So when this comes around I will be in good form. Because tbh I don't give a shit at the moment, I'm happy with my maps. If I get in I'm sure it will improve my game more. 25th best in the ladder and shown i can beat top players. If you have guys for [20] c fair enough.

Qi you could use my new Italy map ;)

Edited 2/20/2014 13:58:20
Proving grounds, reborn: 2/20/2014 17:23:32


[WM] ᵀᴴᴱ𝓕𝓻𝓲𝓭𝓰𝓮 
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Ok so it's official - today a group of people started working on the league. It seems some major changes to the event are going to happen next season, so stay tuned :)
Proving grounds, reborn: 2/20/2014 17:50:26


ps 
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i would play if qi picks the templates.

unless it's those sucky ones he sometimes does where you can barely get any income at all and is mostly won on picks.

reason i never bothered signing up before was disliking Strategic ME 16% enough on the ladder to not want to play it anywhere else on a regular basis.
Proving grounds, reborn: 2/20/2014 18:39:48


ChrisCMU 
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I agree. That is why I left promo league. We already have ladders, clan league, promo league, etc playing the same strat ME templates. That is why my clan challenge league has a variety of templates (but that doesn't help people like ps who think clans are not cool).

If it is something different, I am up for it.

Edited 2/20/2014 18:40:29
Proving grounds, reborn: 2/20/2014 19:51:29


[WM] ᵀᴴᴱ𝓕𝓻𝓲𝓭𝓰𝓮 
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[20] from the beginning was as Qi said - JSA made a change - but it was a bad one. I'm all for Qi's template suggestions.
Proving grounds, reborn: 2/20/2014 21:13:42


ChrisCMU 
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Please invite me to play (in whatever league you think I belong Fridge, I trust your opinion). If you want my input on templates let me know. If you are looking for alternative ones, please consider my Sanctuary map, and my Great Lakes map. In fact, I will invite you to my test game on that one so you can get a better look at it.
Proving grounds, reborn: 2/21/2014 04:27:12

Qi 
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Yeah, version 1.1 of the Italian Renaissance (when the Roma connection is fixed) will definitely be used for 1v1s or 2v2s.

Edited 2/21/2014 04:27:53
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