http://warlight.net/SinglePlayer.aspx?PreviewMap=9665

this isn't the biggest map usa 3.1k is

Doesn't matter, I can't fit any more in this without making the map into a failure shape.

Well that is one exciting map...

So much for making it the biggest and the best...

Have fun putting 2800 centerpoints and 5000+ connections!

Well, it is definitely large. Good luck getting anyone to play on it. Maaaaaaybe if you offer free memberships to testers, you might have a couple of takers?

No way, I wouldn't be able to look at that M without being sick.

Announcement! Biggest map not coming!

It will contain ~1700 bonusses, It'll be the best map for 12v12

Well, you are certainly modest. I would never play a 12v12, but I am sure the more enlightened could make some suggestions as to better maps for such a game.

Please tell me that is 1700 total bonus armies and not 1700 actual bonuses...

12v12 is awesome on small earth..

My first map had two territories without bonuses and even that took me some time to complete. How on medium earth could you have thought map-making was simple?

16 hours? Why do I have the nasty suspicion you're laying this out by hand?

I think if I could dig up matma's hex generator, I could make a bigger map, faster.. I mean.. this assumes of course I wasn't totally lazy

if you had made the outer edge squares instead of rectangles, it would of added roughly 80 more territories to it.. then you could of made it double-thick, adding a tactical layout to the outer edge, rather then just making it a bridge, giving a total of 334 total territories more then your current map
giving you 3155, which would be 48 more then big US...

in other words.. you set out for a task, and failed at it, despite the possibilities staring you in the face..

what's more.. why is it so unbalanced..?

you have 6*10 going across, +9 spaces in between, +4 for space on either side, and the border.. that would mean a total of 73..
then 6*7 +6 for spaces in between, and again 4 for space on either side for 52

that means your total range will be 52 by 73
that means the size of each box should equal the maximum height /53, and the maximum length /73, to get the optimal playing size for each square... and the rectangles would be slightly larger in the appropiate direction


I could be totally off on this, as not being a map-maker, and having barely looked at inkscape.. but in theory since the range is 3330*2440 you could create a block that is (3330/73)-2 by (2440/52)-2 with the 2's being for the borders of each box, and then duplicate that box 2.8k times, to create this map..

although creating boxes that are exactly 43.61643835616438 by 44.92307692307692 pixels could be problematic.. >.>

/pointless rant off

if u gave memberships i will join the map testing
(however i will get myself booted soon as possible)

I couldn't really follow your maths, perrin, but it gave me an idea: what is the highest number of territories you could possibly implent in a 3330*2440 map, if we forget the 3200 territory limit?
Okay, the smallest territory that could fit a two-digit number is 15*10 pixels (this is just an estimate, but it's easy to calculate with.) And for every 8 territories there's a bonus square, also 15*10. All of the territories within a bonus touch each other, but they're 1 pixel off the territories outside that bonus.

Now the math. One bonus is (15*3)+1=46 pixels wide, and (10*3)+1=31 pixels high.
Sooo, our map contains 3330/46=72 territory groups in the width, and 2440/31=78 in the height. Together that makes 5538 groups. Since every group contains 8 territories, that makes a total of 44.304 territories.

If we put the bonus value at 10 for the bonuses not at the edge, at 8 for bonuses that border the edge at one side, and at 6 for bonuses at the corners, that creates a total of ((5538-78-78-72-72+4)*10)+((78+78+72+72-8)*8)+(4*6)=54.780 bonus armies.

Now the connections. In the groups I described are 8 territories and one bonus square. the bonus square is in the middle, the territories are left, right, above and below the bonus square, and in the corners at the left-top, left-bottom, right-bottom and right-top places. In such a group there are 8 connections within the bonus, and 12 connections that go outside. I take half of those outside connections, because multiple groups share the same connections. That makes 14*5538=77.532 connections on the map. But wait, we don't want the ones at the edges touching the territories at the other side, otherwise the bonus numbers make no sense. So we get rid of (78*3)+(72*3)=450 connections, that makes a total of 77.082 connections.

You can see I have got nothing to do...

This thread is getting more and more interesting after posts of Perrin and Moros :D
BTW for a Membership i test also ;)

You realize that the max size is bigger then 2440 * 3330, Right?

The owner of the game put a limit because if you make a map 10000 * 10000 with 250.000 territories, It would take minutes to load, And it will lag every game that'd be playing, Since it'd lag the main server.

It is not about how many terrotories you have, the map still has to be playable, i admit when i started i didn't really care and just wanted to have biggest map, but i realize now why they put a limit, because you're a douchebag, fuck you.

No, the maximum size is definitely 3330*2440. I don't know if you ever tried to make a map bigger than that and tried to upload it, but if you do, you simply get an error message telling the maximum map size. Live with it, and stop scolding please.