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Quickmatch Rankings: 12/15/2017 15:08:50

Fizzer 
Level 64

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                    Player_Name                     | GlobalRating | NumWins
----------------------------------------------------+--------------+---------
 Othello                                            |          781 |     221
 NoMercy                                            |          720 |     179
 master of desaster                                 |          706 |     444
 neal                                               |          678 |     175
 Quicksilver                                        |          678 |     171
 Timinator • apex                                   |          671 |     235
 Xenophon                                           |          651 |     128
 alexclusive                                        |          630 |     303
 kasse84                                            |          626 |     268
 #Master [QB]                                       |          625 |     125
 Krzysztof                                          |          621 |     278
 Wini                                               |          609 |     172
 Bbraw                                              |          593 |     208
 Buns157                                            |          592 |     118
 Muli                                               |          591 |     532
 Love Like Dragons                                  |          582 |     310
 The name's eXpaint                                 |          581 |     209
 malakkan                                           |          579 |     106
 aoc                                                |          565 |     148
 Kezzo                                              |          542 |     131
 [WG] Reza                                          |          538 |     150
 Rento                                              |          537 |      93
 INSIDE                                             |          532 |      78
 Swisster                                           |          531 |     146
 sloppyfatginger                                    |          518 |     232
 Bonsai                                             |          518 |      98
 Lucien Müller                                      |          517 |      94
 Njord                                              |          507 |     121
 wrongdoer                                          |          505 |     191
 Cluster                                            |          498 |      79
 Odin                                               |          497 |     143
 Jay                                                |          486 |     159
 TheUberElite                                       |          477 |     147
 Hellohouseplant                                    |          477 |      70
 Nemo                                               |          475 |     283
 lobster123                                         |          473 |      65
 Fizzer                                             |          473 |     122
 Gargamel                                           |          467 |     169
 ElDuderino                                         |          462 |     196
 aw1908                                             |          461 |      86
 linberson                                          |          459 |      94
 Linative                                           |          457 |     216
 Menda                                              |          452 |      97
 Fiji                                               |          451 |     101
 fatality                                           |          450 |      64
 BrewMaster                                         |          450 |     112
 IHateEverySinglewarlightPlayerOnTheEntirePlanet    |          450 |      89
 me                                                 |          448 |     162
 Icon                                               |          446 |      69
 Hunta                                              |          441 |      62
 Hofmeister                                         |          439 |      99
 CasterMan                                          |          427 |      83
 Rutger                                             |          427 |      68
 GuestNWHSzY                                        |          426 |      50
 mm3100                                             |          423 |      92
Quickmatch Rankings: 12/21/2017 09:36:47

Fizzer 
Level 64

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                    Player_Name                     | GlobalRating | NumWins
----------------------------------------------------+--------------+---------
 Othello                                            |          781 |     221
 master of desaster                                 |          755 |     461
 NoMercy                                            |          720 |     179
 alexclusive                                        |          717 |     363
 Wini                                               |          716 |     239
 neal                                               |          704 |     188
 AWESOMEGUY                                         |          704 |     193
 Quicksilver                                        |          703 |     185
 #Master [QB]                                       |          686 |     148
 Timinator • apex                                   |          676 |     238
 kasse84                                            |          674 |     346
 Xenophon                                           |          668 |     146
 Buns157                                            |          666 |     146
 Njord                                              |          630 |     168
 Muli                                               |          619 |     560
 Bbraw                                              |          604 |     220
 rakleader                                          |          601 |      95
 Fucking Machine                                    |          601 |      89
 Love Like Dragons                                  |          594 |     357
 The name's eXpaint                                 |          594 |     236
 aoc                                                |          583 |     167
 Rento                                              |          578 |     109
 malakkan                                           |          578 |     123
 Kezzo                                              |          570 |     139
 Swisster                                           |          558 |     168
 Krzysztof                                          |          556 |     295
 Baer                                               |          550 |      75
 Bonsai                                             |          540 |     106
 valmora                                            |          538 |     146
 [WG] Reza                                          |          538 |     150
 INSIDE                                             |          536 |      83
 Cluster                                            |          533 |      89
 Private Pabse                                      |          532 |      94
 sloppyfatginger                                    |          531 |     266
 Hellohouseplant                                    |          528 |      88
 GuestNWHSzY                                        |          525 |      93
 wrongdoer                                          |          515 |     212
 IHateEverySinglewarlightPlayerOnTheEntirePlanet    |          512 |     126
 Lucien Müller                                      |          508 |     101
 Nemo                                               |          502 |     294
 Odin                                               |          501 |     144
 Fizzer                                             |          501 |     146
 {{NeRo}}                                           |          501 |      86
 Fiji                                               |          495 |     140
 Gargamel                                           |          495 |     190
 BrewMaster                                         |          494 |     136
 Lightning Revenant                                 |          492 |      59
 aw1908                                             |          492 |      99
 Goatinho                                           |          491 |     132
 Menda                                              |          482 |     112
 fatality                                           |          480 |      68
 Ollie                                              |          479 |      57
 TheUberElite                                       |          477 |     147
 denna                                              |          475 |     118
 linberson                                          |          474 |      97
Quickmatch Rankings: 12/23/2017 13:45:27


master of desaster 
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Is it allowed to play quickmatch from multiple accounts? I think there should be at least a way to control the votes you get faster on an alt
Quickmatch Rankings: 12/23/2017 14:01:28


Timinator • apex 
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i think we will need some sort of rules for that, because people use alts to circumvent the 3-votes-per-template maximum that way.
Quickmatch Rankings: 12/26/2017 12:55:02


krunx 
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Is it allowed to play quickmatch from multiple accounts? I think there should be at least a way to control the votes you get faster on an alt


My opinion: No

i think we will need some sort of rules for that, because people use alts to circumvent the 3-votes-per-template maximum that way.


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Quickmatch Rankings: 12/26/2017 13:40:00


alexclusive 
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Playing from an alt without any rating being a decent player is an enormous and unfair risk for decent players with a rating to lose theirs (+1/-10), that is enough of a problem because of good players that are new to QM already, we really don't need that problem to escalate due to allowing alts, I agree.

Edited 12/26/2017 14:03:56
Quickmatch Rankings: 12/26/2017 15:21:07


Buns157 
Level 68
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Imo ladders are there for all your grinding and caring about stats.
Quickmatch Rankings: 12/26/2017 18:06:45


Beren Erchamion 
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I don't think QM ratings really matter, but the additional votes is a reason to ban alts if possible.
Quickmatch Rankings: 12/26/2017 18:12:37


master of desaster 
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From the 7th to 8th vote you need around 125 wins. With an alt you get almost 3 votes for the amount of wins
Quickmatch Rankings: 12/26/2017 18:14:35


Deadman 
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Agree with buns as usual :p

Other alternatives depending on how expensive they are to implement:
- Don't set a cap on #votes per person. If someone keeps winning, give them more votes at the same rate. Probably not the best idea.
- Determine the #votes each player has, based on the #wins in the last month(or 2 months etc.), instead of all-time. If someone can sustain activity, they should have a say in the templates being used.

p.s - Whatever you decide, please let me switch to my main once my vacation is done. Until then, bow to the lightning revenant!
Quickmatch Rankings: 12/29/2017 19:52:55


Pavluski
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i would like to have to possibility to change and play with my alt,i won't be able to play 1day6 games always in time ,after enough boots i would prefer to play the md games with the alt...But the rt games will be always possible to play for me....
I didnt even know about the vote advantage but implementing mod´s suggestions should solve the problem and maybe allow to play with 2 accounts??
Quickmatch Rankings: 12/29/2017 20:26:14


Beren Erchamion 
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There shouldn't be any issue with people using alts in QM as long as they only vote from one account imo. The issue is that it becomes much simpler to enforce such a system if the system is set up such that using alts doesn't give a big advantage in voting (which it isn't at the moment).

Votes being public helps to some extent, so I'm definitely in favor of keeping that as is.
Quickmatch Rankings: 12/29/2017 22:44:04

Neal 
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As long as ratings are involved alt accounts will always be an issue, even if no reward is given for the highest rank.

i would like to have to possibility to change and play with my alt,i won't be able to play 1day6 games always in time ,after enough boots i would prefer to play the md games with the alt...But the rt games will be always possible to play for me....


Without any judgement regarding pabse, his statement illustrates the nature of peoples desire to be ranked at the place they think they should be. Rankings automatically involve competition and competition will drive people to shortcuts to success.

I agree that people should only vote from 1 account but in my opinion the votes already get manipulated a lot. The system allowing people to change their votes makes manipulation very easy. I have unlocked templates solely because someone gave it 3 votes to unlock it and 1 day later the template dropped to 30 because he removed his votes.

In my opinion votes should be locked when used on a template so people will actually bother to think on where to use them.

solutions could be:
1: release votes when the template either gets removed or drop out top40 templates (= locked if i remember fizzers post correctly)
2: allow people to remove votes from templates if they dont like it anymore but dont allow them to use them again
3: only allow votes to be reused on templates submitted later then previously voted on (might be hard to program though)
4: not unlock a template when it suddenly appears higher on the voted list until you have won enough games to actually unlock a new template.

Fizzers idea was that the template list would stabilize once more people unlock votes but right now its extremely easy to manipulate the template list if people want to. Find 4 people with all 3 votes together and you will get a new template voted 8th spot every day. Solution 4 would be ideal to prevent this problem. Now people who unlocked ranked 15 can easily have 30 templates by voting strategically every day instead of voting on what they think are the most enjoyable templates to play on
Quickmatch Rankings: 12/29/2017 23:35:28


master of desaster 
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^ but this WILL be resolved when there are more votes in general. The real problem is really
1. The maximum votes of 10
2. With alts you unlock a multiple of votes that you'd get by playing with one account only.
Quickmatch Rankings: 1/2/2018 01:28:42


Njord
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a question about the rating system: is the minimum rating you can win 1 point for each win? because if that is the case would that not mean that there would be a constant influx of points into the system due to matches between players of significantly different ratings, and thereby give an ever increasing avg rating or am i misunderstanding something?

Edited 1/2/2018 01:29:37
Quickmatch Rankings: 1/2/2018 02:12:49


master of desaster 
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This seems right. Also, the system inflates anyways, since the points you get/lose aren't symmetrical. If i lose against an opponent and get -5 points, he gets +6 for that game for example

Edited 1/2/2018 18:20:29
Quickmatch Rankings: 1/2/2018 08:48:47


Kezzo
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@matt wolf fix the rating bug! :)
Quickmatch Rankings: 1/2/2018 11:11:06


Njord
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to infinity and beyond
Quickmatch Rankings: 1/2/2018 16:08:28

Burning River
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Quickmatch Rankings: 1/5/2018 00:06:53


master of desaster 
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Will there be an update again?
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