they would not be limited to a single tag..
Ninja vs Pirate is about the only map that I can see no possible strategic point to retaining.. some of the others have curious patterns, but they can be kept for people that are interested in those styles of games...
If Fizzer started to Impose his wills on maps, then likelyhood would be that map-makers would stop making maps, for fear their work would be deemed unworthy, and that would hurt the community.. unless ofc' he also implemented a standard for which maps must follow in order to be allowed to remain.. While I know Fizzer will not want to implement a standard like this, I do foresee in the possible future it being necessary.

I would prefer if i could make a tick (check mark) on every map i'm sure i will never use for making a game.
So i can eliminate every map i don't want for my own.
Those descisions should be saved and everybody can sort out what they want.

Right, it seems like a lot of you are on the same page as I was. There are way to many maps to easily keep track of. Some people like certain maps while other despise them. I wasn't talking about getting rid of maps, because that's one of the coolest parts of this game is that the users create the maps. But we need a way to organize them better. I like a lot of the ideas you guys came up with, but having a list of your favorite maps and a way to filter maps out with a "blacklist" option seems like the best.

p.s. I use the pirate v ninja map all the time :D

Ratings would be cool, but - how can you compare maps such as, say, my Grid (which is just a 21x21 grid of squares, arranged in a 7x7 grid of bonuses) to, say, USA Big? You can have a jolly good game on both of these. (I played a handful of fun FFAs on Grid and even won one.)


I think we need, first of all, more map categories. The current system is like this - it's actually twofold, but its two parts are not really separated:

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By contents:
* Real World
* Fictional
* Novelty
* Local

By quality:
* Featured
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I would suggest something like this, with threefold system and two levels of division:

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By playability:
* Large (over 500 territories)
* Medium (100-500 territories)
* Small (below 100 territories)
* Art / Novelty *(for ex. Duel map, Yin-Yang, etc.)*

By contents:
* Real World
** Large scale *(more than one country - eg., entire world, continents, or East Asia map)*
** Medium scale *(usually just one country)*
** Small scale *(what is now called "Local maps", possibly also maps like Reunion Island)*
* Fictional
** Classical *(for example Middle Earth, Tamriel, The World of Warhammer - maps from well-established fantasy series)*
** Original *(fresh creations by Warlight community members - for ex. Drakemor's world)*
* Geometric *(hexagon or square maps - maps such as Eranis World by jacek would be included, but could be present in other categories as well, in this case Fantasy / Original)*
* Art / Novelty *(this would be synonymous with Art / Novelty category above)*

By quality:
* Featured *(I'd expand this category to about 10-15 maps, maybe)*
* Great *(maps which are stable, balanced and conform to all guidelines, including nitpicks like overlaying bonus borders)*
* Other *(unrated or sucks ;), but the map is grandfathered or we don't want to be harsh to mappers)*

incidentally, on the games pages, you can see players names when you hover over their colour square. i think the map name should also pop up as alt-text when you hover over it. sometimes its hard to tell exactly which map it is just from the open games list.

Right, I want going to preview, and of course clicked the wrong button, it all got borked, and now I can't edit.

I've put it all on the Wiki for easy editing: http://wiki.warlight.net/index.php/User:Matma_Rex/Map_category_proposal

I think what I created here is pretty well thought-out. Also, if this system gets accepted and you, Fizzer, have better things to do, I volunteer for the great sorting of the maps ;).

And Monaco? It is a country, but I wouldn't call it medium because even the "big" version has **18** territories...

i'd like to see the following options (without having to scroll down):

1. all maps [ ]
2. fictional [ ]
3. novelty [ ]
4. local [ ]
5. real [ ]
6. small 2-50 territories [ ]
7. medium 51-100 territories [ ]
8. large 101-200 territories [ ]
9. huge 201+ territories [ ]
10. high rating (4-5) [ ]
11. good rating 3-4 [ ]
12. ok rating 2-3 [ ]
13. low rating 0-2 [ ]

and then when i want to play a game, i just go to custom game, i see these options, i click the box of the option(s) that interest(s) me, and maps appear.

i'd probably usually only search real (option 5), medium (7) maps with a high rating (10).

Metal, that was almost precisely what one of my ideas was
Gui, I think that checkboxes would be a great addition, not only to map searches, but my games, my tournaments, and others I can't currently remember.

great for life too perrin:

i want my wife to:

1. not complain [ ]
2. stop worrying about money [ ]
3. clean more than i do [ ]
4. stop giving me that ugly face [ ]
5. trust me more [ ]
6. etc.

oh yeah, for featured maps: showing the 10 most played maps in the last month (not counting ladder games) would be nice. that would give us an idea of what people play when they choose the map/settings of their own free volition.

I think idea of some kind of "tags" would be cool.

Just a few comments and suggestions.
New Jersey maps are good, but boring, repetitive, and small.
Skunk maps are pretty horrendous. No idea why Fizzer allows this kind of garbage.
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Relating to the main post...
I don't think we can ever have enough maps. Each map is individual and great in its own ways.
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A few features we should have...
-Rating system. This is crucial.
-A feature system that doesn't just feature the same maps. Maybe it could show the best map of the month and week.
- Tags. (Maybe.)
- A never-show-again feature, as mentioned. I don't think I'll ever play an NJ county map.

We should have more categories with subcategories

Like the category "Real World Maps", too broad.
Subcategories could be "United States", "Europe", or "Australia".
You can go even deeper with subcategories in larger subcategories.
Like "United States" can have "California", "Texas", or "New Jersey"

Also, everyone seems to be pro for a Rating system.
I''ll jump on the boat and say it is a great idea.

Sort by ratings
Sort by play count
Sort by most recent
And then the current category
featured
all
novelty
etc

Also sir nick, is that a account an alt or do you just play single player?

i agree wit all the ideas and are skunk maps the hex ones cause i hate them except eranis world

Whats wrong with by maps, i realease one a month of a good standered.... There is nothing wrong with them, I use the amount of postive and negitive feedbacks to make a score out of ten, maybe a player could rate a map when in previes, like the system on armour games. that would be a good idea.

Ironheart, what do you mean by hex map.

I'm all for people being able to rate maps, but only in a positive way. Something along the lines of being able to give a map some kind of vote of recommendation but not being able to say that you don't like it.

The best maps would rise to the top of the tree and people who have put a lot of work into making a map won't have their efforts trampled on with negative votes.

I'd rather have no votes on my map than bad ones.

People's feelings are at stake here. People's feelings!

I gona have to agree with the yellow team here, my fellings are getting hurt when my maps are constantly being said there mad but every day when i look at the games i see real time and multi matches with my maps.