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Promotion/Relegation League Season 23: 10/6/2017 13:12:15


almosttricky 
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Promotion/Relegation League Season 23: 10/6/2017 13:12:46


almosttricky 
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GROUP A
Arkanton
Jefferspin
almosttricky
timon92
Buns157
Krzysztof
Master of the Dead

GROUP B
Timinator
master of desaster
smileyleg
FlyingBender
JV
Master Jz
grames

GROUP C1
13CHRIS37
Master Bjarke
rocky1
Andersault
Phoenix
Don [ Ω ]
awesomeusername

GROUP C2
USA Biches
Beren • apex
Cata Cauda
Oh Noes
dry-clean-only
Dom365
Hunta

GROUP D1
Mirror
Math Wolf
butterfly94
Maréchal Lannes, duc de Montebello
Master Farah♦
Doron Hoh

GROUP D2
PanagiotisTheGreekFreak
Bigchps147
.. this guy 3-2
Edge
Min34
Njord
krunx

GROUP E1
Master Turtle
BADA
Pink
Semicedevine
KKND (dropping out of the League)
Hostile
Terek

GROUP E2
ferede
culpa
rouxburg
MIFRAN
Great Expanse
MightySpeck (a Koala)
[*Voo*] tomn555

GROUP E3
Tjoex
Hasdrubal
[FCC] Aura Guardian
ARand0mPlayer
The Adversary
carlos12.0
Matt431

GROUP F1
Coyote151
[NL] bassoonplayer
Robert E Lee
Baer
Kurdistan49
Fluttershy
Tof

GROUP F2
Ink Splatoon
The Royal Canadian Empire
Doc
jacob
J0twe
[WG] Reza
Milly

GROUP F3
tomjh
bobbob000
Kaerox
Mike |GG|
Tribalwars
natto
Octane

GROUP G1
{{NeRo}}
Coronel Gavilan
Admiral Clark
Bayern München is the best!
THE AWESOME OTTERYCAT
Kezzo
Cowboy

GROUP G2
dannybhoy
Benjamin628
Ƨillynamenace
EmawShasta
Mort (dropping out of league)
Tac(ky)tical
matrixtch

GROUP G3
Andresso
Des {TJC}
Rubin
kicorse
Midazolam
Lew
John John Johnson

GROUP G4
Etienne
Weatherman900 {TJC}
Kevin Turner
MoneyMakingMitch
[ARM]BelSon
pumpkinhead
TianO

GROUP G5
Platinum
DemoZ
Nemo
MilesAhead
indibob
Star of the East
Dimitris_Wingo

Everyone should have received an invitation to your group at this point. If you haven't gotten one yet, please let me know!

Edited 10/9/2017 12:45:44
Promotion/Relegation League Season 23: 10/6/2017 13:22:54


Onoma94
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GROUP F3
Kaerox

GROUP G2
Tac(ky)tical

GROUP G3
Des {TJC}


Inactives.
Promotion/Relegation League Season 23: 10/6/2017 14:59:48


Dimitris_Wingo
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can i play to ? maybe to late?
Promotion/Relegation League Season 23: 10/7/2017 04:51:48


almosttricky 
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Dimitris_Wingo, you have been added to group G5!
Promotion/Relegation League Season 23: 10/7/2017 05:05:47


almosttricky 
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Concept

The Promotion/Relegation League is a seasonal group of round-robin Warlight tournaments, always on the classic “strategic middle earth” map and settings with 0% weighted random luck. (This is not the same as the template currently used for the 1v1 ladder.) Players are grouped into 7 player groups, each group sorted into a tier. At the end of each season, the top players of each tier are promoted to the next tier above. Bottom players are relegated to the next tier below. Middle players remain in the same tier.

The league is meant to appeal to players who want to see, over the course of several seasons, where their natural level of competition might take them. For new, skilled participants, this means patience in getting to the levels where they will be challenged. Hopefully, that is part of the fun. The idea is to see how quickly you can progress, how long you can stay high, or how long it takes to stop a skid.
Promotion/Relegation League Season 23: 10/7/2017 05:07:08


almosttricky 
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List of Promotion Relegation League Winners

*Season 1 had 3 equal groups*

Season 1
Dunga http://warlight.net/MultiPlayer.aspx?TournamentID=2151
Frankdeslimste http://warlight.net/MultiPlayer.aspx?TournamentID=2155
TexasJohn http://warlight.net/MultiPlayer.aspx?TournamentID=2154

Season 2
Dunga http://WarLight.net/MultiPlayer.aspx?TournamentID=2295

Season 3
Dunga http://WarLight.net/MultiPlayer.aspx?TournamentID=2631

Season 4
Dunga http://WarLight.net/MultiPlayer.aspx?TournamentID=2935

Season 5
HHH http://WarLight.net/MultiPlayer.aspx?TournamentID=3180

Season 6
Frankdeslimste http://warlight.net/MultiPlayer?TournamentID=3500

Season 7
Frankdeslimste http://warlight.net/MultiPlayer?TournamentID=4042

Season 8
Ruthless Bastard http://warlight.net/MultiPlayer?TournamentID=4484

Season 9
Ruthless Bastard http://warlight.net/MultiPlayer?TournamentID=4969

Season 10
dreuj http://warlight.net/MultiPlayer?TournamentID=6070

Season 11
dreuj http://warlight.net/MultiPlayer?TournamentID=7424

Season 12
grona http://warlight.net/MultiPlayer?TournamentID=9076

Season 13
grona http://warlight.net/MultiPlayer?TournamentID=10348

Season 14 - A Five Way Tie!
Frankdeslimste, Miyagi, Grona, Ineffable, Timon92
https://www.warlight.net/MultiPlayer?TournamentID=11631

Season 15
Tenshi https://www.warlight.net/MultiPlayer/Tournament?ID=13085

Season 16
timon92 https://www.warlight.net/MultiPlayer/Tournament?ID=14279

Season 17
Krzychu https://www.warlight.net/MultiPlayer/Tournament?ID=15408

Season 18
timon92 https://www.warlight.net/MultiPlayer/Tournament?ID=17073

Season 19
timon92 https://www.warlight.net/MultiPlayer/Tournament?ID=18648

Season 20
Timinator https://www.warlight.net/MultiPlayer/Tournament?ID=20240

Season 21
Master of the Dead https://www.warlight.net/MultiPlayer/Tournament?ID=21890

Season 22
almosttricky https://www.warlight.net/MultiPlayer/Tournament?ID=23398

Hall of Fame (omitting shared titles):
timon92 - 3
Dunga - 3
grona - 2
dreuj - 2
Ruthless Bastard - 2
Frankdeslimste - 2
Master of the Dead - 1
Timinator - 1
Krzychu - 1
Tenshi - 1
Heyheuhei - 1
almosttricky - 1
Promotion/Relegation League Season 23: 10/7/2017 05:13:31


almosttricky 
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Rules

The league is run with a balance of predictability and flexibility. Final decisions are made by the league administrator with an attempt to consider input of league players.

For season 22, the following model is employed:

A (1 group): 2 demote
B (1 group): 2 promote, 3 demote
C (2 groups): 3 promote (1 each group plus 2nd place playoff between C1 and C2), 4 demote (2 each group)
D (2 groups): 4 promote (2 each group), 6 demote (3 each group)
E (3 groups): 6 promote (2 each group), 6 demote (2 each group)
F (3 groups): 6 promote (2 each group), 9 demote (3 each group)
G (5 groups): 9 promote (Approximately 2 from each group after dropouts)

There are exceptions to this model. Where there is default – a player becoming inactive or asking to bow out of the league – there can be more promotions to fill in the vacancy. The principle, though, is to usually have at least one player from each group relegated. Several retirements mean fewer relegations and more promotions to keep the groups filled.

Any player inactive in any three games of any tournament is deemed to be out of the league and can only return as a new player in an expansion or bottom group.

Placements in a round-robin are determined by number of wins. In the event of a tie, placements are determined by head-to-head results among the tied. Occasionally, there are loops of ties that cannot be resolved by the head-to-head rule. A tie-breaking tournament then takes place unless all the players involved agree to otherwise settle the tie.

If players are still tied after the tiebreaker tournament, or a tiebreaker tournament is not made, ratios of Fizzer's metric will be used to break the tie. Fizzer's metric is calculated in the final turn of the game, and is equal to a player's controlled armies plus income times two (A + 2*I). The ratio then is the metric for one player divided by the sum of metrics for both players. I will cap the metric to be a minimum of 0.51 for the winner and a maximum of 0.49 for the loser. The tie will then be broken according to the sum of ratios of Fizzer's metric among games involved in the tie. (If still tied, I will disregard the 0.51/0.49 limits)

Anyone can join the league, members and non-members alike, simply by request in the most recent “Promotion/Relegation League” forum thread. New players begin in the bottom group or in an expansion group. Promotions from expansion groups depend on numbers within the new groups.

For players with multiple accounts, only one account may be used in this league, and placement in the league can't be switched around with other accounts. What this means is that if you want to switch accounts, you must start again from the bottom tier. It's recommended that all new players use an account they plan to use long term.

Before the beginning of each season, a summary of the movements will be announced to allow for questions or corrections. The league works most smoothly if those who wish to bow out of it let the administrator know before the new season begins instead of simply declining to play after the groups have been determined and tournaments begun.
Promotion/Relegation League Season 23: 10/7/2017 14:06:11


almosttricky 
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Okay guys, so everyone has until the October 20th to join. If you don't join by then, you will forfeit your spot.
Promotion/Relegation League Season 23: 10/7/2017 14:34:58


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Thanks for organising
Promotion/Relegation League Season 23: 10/8/2017 07:46:09


almosttricky 
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Anybody want to make some predictions on the winner? 4 of the players have already won a season. almosttricky won last season, Master of the Dead 2 seasons ago, Krzysztof won season 17, and Timon has won 3 seasons (more than any other player). Buns157 is legendary on the 1v1 ladder. Arkanton and Jefferspin are new to the group, but are also elite players with top ladder rankings as well. It should be a competitive season!

Edited 10/8/2017 07:46:51
Promotion/Relegation League Season 23: 10/8/2017 10:03:59


Buns157 
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I think the only sure thing about group A is Jeff losing to me and then trying to retire again
Promotion/Relegation League Season 23: 10/9/2017 13:12:02


almosttricky 
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GROUPS D1, G4, and G5 have all started! See below for players who still need to join.
** indicates that the player hasn't joined yet

GROUP A
**Arkanton
Jefferspin
almosttricky
timon92
Buns157
Krzysztof
Master of the Dead

GROUP B
Timinator
master of desaster
smileyleg
FlyingBender
JV
Master Jz
**grames

GROUP C1
**13CHRIS37
Master Bjarke
rocky1
Andersault
Phoenix
Don [ Ω ]
awesomeusername

GROUP C2
**USA Biches
Beren • apex
Cata Cauda
**Oh Noes
**dry-clean-only
Dom365
Hunta

GROUP D1 STARTED!!
Mirror
Math Wolf
butterfly94
Maréchal Lannes, duc de Montebello
Master Farah♦
Doron Hoh

GROUP D2
**PanagiotisTheGreekFreak
Bigchps147
.. this guy 3-2
Edge
Min34
Njord
krunx

GROUP E1
Master Turtle
**BADA
Pink
**Semicedevine
**KKND (dropping out of the League)
Hostile
Terek

GROUP E2
ferede
**culpa
rouxburg
MIFRAN
**Great Expanse
MightySpeck (a Koala)
[*Voo*] tomn555

GROUP E3
Tjoex
Hasdrubal
**[FCC] Aura Guardian
ARand0mPlayer
**The Adversary
carlos12.0
Matt431

GROUP F1
Coyote151
**[NL] bassoonplayer
Robert E Lee
Baer
Kurdistan49
Fluttershy
Tof

GROUP F2
**Ink Splatoon (dropping out of the league)
The Royal Canadian Empire
Doc
jacob
J0twe
[WG] Reza
Milly

GROUP F3
tomjh
**bobbob000 (dropping out of the league)
**Kaerox
Mike |GG|
Tribalwars
**natto
Octane

GROUP G1
{{NeRo}}
Coronel Gavilan
**Admiral Clark
Bayern München is the best!
THE AWESOME OTTERYCAT
**Kezzo (dropping out of the league)
Cowboy

GROUP G2
**dannybhoy (dropping out of the league)
Benjamin628
Ƨillynamenace
**EmawShasta
**Mort (dropping out of the league)
**Tac(ky)tical
matrixtch
Nauzhror

GROUP G3
**Andresso
**Des {TJC}
Rubin
kicorse
Midazolam
Lew
John John Johnson

GROUP G4 STARTED!!!
Etienne
Weatherman900 {TJC}
Kevin Turner
MoneyMakingMitch
[ARM]BelSon
pumpkinhead
TianO

GROUP G5 STARTED!!!
Platinum
DemoZ
Nemo
MilesAhead
indibob
Star of the East
Dimitris_Wingo

Edited 10/11/2017 03:53:14
Promotion/Relegation League Season 23: 10/9/2017 14:12:10

Nauzhror 
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I'll take the place of someone in a G group in one of the non-started tournaments that has dropped out if possible.
Promotion/Relegation League Season 23: 10/10/2017 03:43:11

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Predictions:

GROUP A
**Arkanton
Jefferspin
almosttricky
timon92
Buns157
Krzysztof
Master of the Dead

None of these players are bad, but I think Buns, Timon, and Master of the Dead will finish in the top 3. I'd guess Buns comes in 1st. Jefferspin and almosttricky demote.

GROUP B
Timinator
master of desaster
smileyleg
FlyingBender
JV
Master Jz
**grames

master of desaster is the likely winner, he and timinator promote.

graemes absolutely demotes, he's far worse than everyone else in this group. Past that I'd guess Flyingbender and smileyleg also demote, but JV or Jz could potentially take their place.

GROUP C1
**13CHRIS37
Master Bjarke
rocky1
Andersault
Phoenix
Don [ Ω ]
awesomeusername

13chris37 is the best bet to promote IMO, if he joins, if he doesn't I pick Bjarke. There's really not a lot of parity here, I think any hypothetically could promote or demote. I would wager on Rocky and Phoenix demoting though.

GROUP C2
**USA Biches
Beren • apex
Cata Cauda
**Oh Noes
**dry-clean-only
Dom365
Hunta

I think this is the C group with 2 to promote.

Cauda demotes, no question. So does Hunta.

I'll pick Dom365 and USA Biches to promote, but Beren, or Oh Noes could easily promote instead.


GROUP D1
Mirror
Math Wolf
butterfly94
Maréchal Lannes, duc de Montebello
Master Farah♦
Doron Hoh

butterfly, Marechal, and Doron Hoh demote.
Mirror, and Farah promote. Math Wold promoting instead of them would not be a huge surprise.

GROUP D2
PanagiotisTheGreekFreak
Bigchps147
.. this guy
Edge
Min34
Njord
krunx

Bigchps demotes for sure, this guy and min likely do as well. Njord could ptentially demote instead of min.

Promotions is trickier, but I'll guess Edge and Panagiotis. Krunx is very much a contender to promote though, and is better than many people in higher groups, but he has a tough group to fight for only 2 spots.


GROUP E1
Master Turtle
**BADA
Pink
**Semicedevine
**KKND (dropping out of the League)
Hostile
Terek

Uhh, Master Turtle, KKND, BADA, Semicedevine were the 4 best here, only 1 of those 4 has joined.

Thus, I predict Master Turtle promotes. If Semice joins he also promotes, but I don't expect he will. BADA however may join, so I'll pick him as the second promotion.

For the demotions, Terek and Hostile.

GROUP E2
ferede
**culpa
rouxburg
MIFRAN
**Great Expanse
MightySpeck (a Koala)
[*Voo*] tomn555

Easy promotions for mifran and rouxburg.

tomn demotes for sure. I'll pick Mightyspeck as the second to demote.

GROUP E3
Tjoex
Hasdrubal
**[FCC] Aura Guardian
ARand0mPlayer
**The Adversary
carlos12.0
Matt431


carlos and aura promote.
Hasdrubal and randomplayer demote.

GROUP F1
Coyote151
**[NL] bassoonplayer
Robert E Lee
Baer
Kurdistan49
Fluttershy
Tof

Kurdistan promotes. Easily. I'll pick Fluttershy to promote as well, but that second spot is much more highly contested between Fluttershy, Robert E Lee, and Baer.

Coyote, Ƨillynamenace, and Bassoonplayer demote. Tof could demote instead of bassoon.

GROUP F2
**Ink Splatoon (dropping out of the league)
The Royal Canadian Empire
Doc
jacob
J0twe
[WG] Reza
Milly

Reza and Milly to promote. J0twe is in the running too.
Doc, Royal Canadian, and Ink Splatoon demote.

GROUP F3
tomjh
**bobbob000 (dropping out of the league)
**Kaerox
Mike |GG|
Tribalwars
**natto
Octane

Mike and Octane promote.

Natto, tomjh, and bobbob demote.

GROUP G1
{{NeRo}}
Coronel Gavilan
**Admiral Clark
Bayern München is the best!
THE AWESOME OTTERYCAT
**Kezzo (dropping out of the league)
Cowboy

Nero and Cowboy promote. Would be Kezzo's division to win, but he dropped.

GROUP G2
**dannybhoy
**Benjamin628
Ƨillynamenace
**EmawShasta
**Mort (dropping out of the league)
**Tac(ky)tical
matrixtch
**Nauzhror

I promote. matrixtch probably promotes too.

GROUP G3
**Andresso
**Des {TJC}
Rubin
kicorse
Midazolam
Lew
John John Johnson

Lew and Kicorse most likely to promote, John John Johnson however deserves to promote more than anyone else but me in G2, and more than anyone in G1 or G4. He got screwed with group placement.

GROUP G4 STARTED!!!
Etienne
Weatherman900 {TJC}
Kevin Turner
MoneyMakingMitch
[ARM]BelSon
pumpkinhead
TianO

No one here deserves to promote if picking the top 9 overall in G IMO, but since someone must: pumpkinhead. This is definitely the weakest group.

GROUP G5 STARTED!!!
Platinum
DemoZ
Nemo
MilesAhead
indibob
Star of the East
Dimitris_Wingo

Platinum and Star promote.

Edited 10/10/2017 03:57:10
Promotion/Relegation League Season 23: 10/10/2017 19:07:33


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About G3 Nauzhror writes:
Lew and Kicorse most likely to promote, John John Johnson however deserves to promote more than anyone else but me in G2, and more than anyone in G1 or G4. He got screwed with group placement


My response: A G3 player who'll definitely promote is midazolam. You'll see.




About F1 Nauzhror writes:
Coyote, Ƨillynamenace, and Bassoonplayer demote. Tof could demote instead of bassoon.


My response: You're right, I don't belong there :D (I'm not in F1. I'm just the creator of that tournament.)




About G2 Nauzhror writes:
I promote. matrixtch probably promotes too.


My response: Probably. I am an easy opponent for both of you. I can't say anything about how my game against Benjamin may unfold.

Edited 10/10/2017 22:02:56
Promotion/Relegation League Season 23: 10/10/2017 22:34:45

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"My response: A G3 player who'll definitely promote is midazolam. You'll see."

He might, due to dropouts or upsets, but I'd definitely rate Lew and Kicorse above him. I am not calling him bad though, but I do think he's fourth best in that group - it's a pretty tough group.

Edited 10/10/2017 22:35:39
Promotion/Relegation League Season 23: 10/11/2017 11:29:00


TianO
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Nauz i totally disagree with "This is definitely the weakest group." and its funny cause you are in the weakest G group xD

Predictions
A/ Buns for the win :D
D2/ Pana and Edge if Pana plays
and bet my money Kurdistan taking the win F1
and Star of the East making the upset on G5

*btw Nauz predictions about promote is cool, predictions about demotes and what group is weak and who dont deserve to promote,hmm isnt cool xD

Goodluck to everyone:)
Promotion/Relegation League Season 23: 10/11/2017 12:26:30


Krzysztof 
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Jefferspin and almosttricky demote

That's brave predicition as ninja won last season and Jeff.., well, he is Jeff ;)
Promotion/Relegation League Season 23: 10/11/2017 12:32:03


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pumpkinhead deserves a spot imo, he's plenty good enough to compete in any of the divisions (including G3), even though I do agree that G3 is too stacked, considering much of the other divisions are made up of weak opponents (G1, G2, and G4)
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