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Paying an SVG expert to make a map: 12/19/2011 18:22:35


thekohser 
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Are there any Inkscape experts who would be willing to convert a drawing of mine to fruition as a WarLight map? It would probably take me 40 hours to learn Inkscape and design my map, but it might take an expert only an hour or two.

So, I guess I'm asking for bids. The map would be of Atlantic City, New Jersey, and I'm thinking about 70 territories with about 11 bonuses and super-bonuses.

Rough sketch of map [is found here](http://www.mywikibiz.com/File:Atlantic_City_game_map_and_key.jpg) ...

I'll award the contract to the lowest bidder (please, no bids over $100, as it's not worth that much to me) who can demonstrate prior proficiency in a custom map, who can assure completion of the map between January 1 and January 15, 2012. Please submit your bids to ResearchBiz@gmail.com. I will accept bids through December 31, 2011, announcing the winner here on January 1, 2012.

Thanks!

Greg
Paying an SVG expert to make a map: 12/19/2011 18:45:54


Moros 
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Hmmm...
Well, the sketch is good, but I don't think there're 70 territories on it. Perhaps a better drawing ground would be one of these:
http://www.casenet.com/concert/acmap1.jpg
http://www.aaccessmaps.com/images/maps/us/nj/atlantic_city/atlantic_city.gif
http://mapsof.net/uploads/static-maps/Atlantic_city_map.png
Or, if someone has REALLY much time, this one, with every city block a territory:
http://www.chss.iup.edu/kpatrick/Phila-AC/Atlantic%20City,%201900.jpg
Even tough it's from 1900 :)
Oh, and please don't pay whoever makes it, there are dozens of people who would do it for free, don't let people ask you money for it.
Paying an SVG expert to make a map: 12/19/2011 18:52:24


Richard Sharpe 
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Wouldn't be too difficult to make into a map... the one issue that jumps out to me is the potential difficulty with the roads as they may be too narrow to fit a territory. The only other issue would be if you want the bigger territories broken up (Melrose for instance)

Honestly, learning basics of Inkscape isn't that bad... if you are decently proficient with computers you should be able to crank this map out in 5-6 hours. My [first map](http://warlight.net/SinglePlayer.aspx?PreviewMap=6973) took some 15-20 hours and its a lot larger than this one and I had never dealt with any such drawing programs.
Paying an SVG expert to make a map: 12/19/2011 19:49:31


thekohser 
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In response to some of the comments...

I believe there are 68 territories in my sketch, but it's just a draft that may need a little expansion. Note that the streets are divided into territories, but that the areas between the streets are "black", not part of the playing surface. The beachfront area could also be turned into territories, and the three piers could be "connected" with those curved arcs.

I know that I *could* learn Inkscape, but I have too many other projects in play right now -- it's not something I care to learn, so I'd rather pay someone for their services. I doubt someone really wants to do this for free.
Paying an SVG expert to make a map: 12/19/2011 20:10:49


Moros 
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Okay, if you doubt anyone would make it for free, check the Alaska map. Kirby asked someone to make a map of Alaska, and within a week Matma Rex made it!
http://warlight.net/Forum/Thread.aspx?ThreadID=2525
Paying an SVG expert to make a map: 12/19/2011 20:46:02


CaptainMorgan11
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This would be a popular map for strip bar fans, gamblers, and American east coast tourists who enjoy " the shore". I love the idea.
Paying an SVG expert to make a map: 12/19/2011 20:47:05


thekohser 
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Moros, the Alaska request had the advantage of a ready-made SVG diagram of Alaska. This is a custom map that focuses on business establishments, not counties or townships, or city blocks.
Paying an SVG expert to make a map: 12/19/2011 21:21:56

emoose 
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I guess kohser is the type eager to spend money on trivial things...

kohser, I get the feeling there are numerous expert map-makers on here who would all be willing to make the map for free, and given it's size and the ?27? day deadline you're putting up, it shouldn't be much of a challenge even for rookie map-makers. Hell, I would offer if I wasn't in the middle of another map project.

If you refuse to even acknowledge that some people will give you a good quality map for free, you're being quite offensive to those people, and I'm sure few or none of them would do it even if it is paid work.

Just my thoughts.
Paying an SVG expert to make a map: 12/19/2011 23:00:55


devilnis 
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The OP wants to offer to pay someone to make the map, why mock him? It's a perfectly legitimate request. Might be someone around who could really use the money, who knows....
Paying an SVG expert to make a map: 12/19/2011 23:16:43


Metaltubbie 
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Well, i think i would do it for a membership...
...but i also think, you should find somebody for less.
Than it depends, what quality you get :-D
Paying an SVG expert to make a map: 12/20/2011 02:20:32


thekohser 
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It's curious how my generosity is deemed "offensive". If the lowest bid is $0, then I'll go with that. I just happen to believe that our culture's creative output is on an ever-declining trajectory, largely because of this notion of "free" "crowdsourced" economic practices. I had hoped to show my concrete appreciation for the creative work -- work at my solicited request -- of another human being, but if that offends someone, then by all means, put in that $0 bid.

(Side note, I have not received a single bid yet.)
Paying an SVG expert to make a map: 12/20/2011 02:35:45


Richard Sharpe 
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Personally, I don't see people getting offended by it. You may have some that don't show interest because of it but even that is rather unlikely.

I just started a sizeable map project of my own or I would consider doing it (gratis).
Paying an SVG expert to make a map: 12/20/2011 06:35:25


Perrin3088 
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I see alot more people offer suggestions, and often links to pictures that could be used for future maps, and allow anyone willing to make the map make it..
90% of the maps on here were made by people that wanted to make them, either for themselves or for someone else..
Paying an SVG expert to make a map: 12/21/2011 16:02:53


thekohser 
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Still no offers to construct the map, so I will extend the admittedly arbitrary "deadlines", so that maybe some of you who were previously tied up with your own map projects might consider mine for some later date.

Of course, once I get a willing map-maker, I will post that info here, so that nobody is at risk of doing duplicate work.
Paying an SVG expert to make a map: 12/21/2011 16:39:39


Moros 
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I'll do it, it'll only take an hour to make the territories, the other stuff about a week, but because I'm busy with Benelux I can only start after I'm done with it, but it'll be guaranteed done before your deadline.
Paying an SVG expert to make a map: 12/21/2011 17:03:52


Richard Sharpe 
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I'm impressed Moros... the territory creation is the slowest part for me... the work done once uploaded to WL is far faster for me. Though I am rather anal with the cleanliness of the map.
Paying an SVG expert to make a map: 12/21/2011 17:15:10


Moros 
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It was a rough estimate, it might be longer, but because of the structure of this map there are much less common borders, and it mostly consists of straight lines. And because of both of these things, I can work with a grid, with 1 line every pixel, so I can place nodes exactly on the grid, and outline them perfectly!
Paying an SVG expert to make a map: 12/25/2011 17:32:39


thekohser 
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Thank you, Moros! I look forward to the results of your work. E-mail me at ResearchBiz@gmail.com when you get started. We can discuss some of the details that were still a bit up in the air (e.g., should the beach be territory, or out-of-bounds, etc.).
Paying an SVG expert to make a map: 12/25/2011 18:57:59


Domenico
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Well, Moros, be sure to ask a good price for your work.
A certain wage per hour, a territory fee, a detail fee, a fee for anything you have to change the original map for, a fee for testing and debug, and of course an extra fee, should the map ever be featured.
***Kassa!*** :)
Paying an SVG expert to make a map: 12/25/2011 20:23:41


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dont forget your million dollar bonus for achieving targets.
Paying an SVG expert to make a map: 12/26/2011 14:53:16


thekohser 
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Ha ha, too funny!
Paying an SVG expert to make a map: 1/2/2012 14:07:37


Moros 
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I've made a testing game with it and invited you on the e-mail address you gave me.
Paying an SVG expert to make a map: 1/5/2012 23:52:05


Moros 
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Paying an SVG expert to make a map: 1/6/2012 00:06:13


Moros 
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What do you think of the bonus colors? All bonuses were chosen by thekohser, but because a lot of them were overlapping it became a mess. So I just made bonuses for the 4 mayor territory categories, the streets, clubs, casinos and cafetaria, and gave them all the same color. It may be confusing, but if you just click the bonus signs close to you you can spot if one is in your reach. I recommend this map to be played with random full distribution, so you might have a chance of getting a few far away places, that are both in your reach, and have a higher bonus, in the second or third turn.
Also, this is the first map I've made custom distributions with, and I wish I'd have discovered them sooner :( And I've included a small signature in the map, and I'll post it in every map I'll make after this one, just like Diabolicus does, but then every time in a different language!

And, with this map added I'm happy to join the *"Community Of People Of WarLight Who Have Made And Published 4 Or Even More Maps"*, or *COPOWLWHMAP4OEMM*. Maybe I should include that in my name: *[COPOWLWHMAP4OEMM] Moros* How does that sound? Check who's the biggest map-builder [here](http://warlight.net/Forum/Thread.aspx?ThreadID=2331).


Well, any tips, bugs or begs for a map of his own? I'm listening :)
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