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The Impaller versus the World (or someone else?): 11/21/2011 04:43:14


KniFe 
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Remember the "The Impaller versus the World" game? I thought that was fun to watch, and instructive to read the discussions on the forums from the best players in the game. I was wondering if fizzer is going to bring that back again, since I'm sure it helped many players to improve their game.

Perhaps this time some other great player? Maybe we could have something like team A vs team B, where you get randomly assigned to one of the team and vote on what you would like your team to do.
The Impaller versus the World (or someone else?): 11/21/2011 06:40:14

Qi 
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zaeban (#1 on ladder) or zibick21 (arguably the best) vs the world?
The Impaller versus the World (or someone else?): 11/21/2011 06:56:31


myhandisonfire 
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How about a 3on3 vs the rest of the world? :)
The Impaller versus the World (or someone else?): 11/21/2011 06:58:08


Wolfman100
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Zibick, Zaeban, and the Imapller vs the entire world, 3 vs 3. I'm sure we will be able to learn a lot: coordination, teamwork and the rest of it.And it will be very epic as well :D
The Impaller versus the World (or someone else?): 11/21/2011 07:39:41

Qi 
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i don't think that'd be fair (the world would win for sure: a lot of you voters would do better). assuming all 3 really wanted to do this, i have 2 questions: (1) does zaeban even play 3v3 games? (2) since the ladder map is not an ideal 3v3 map, which map would be best for all three to show their 'coordination and teamwork' (eg, not sure which maps zaeban/impaller prefer, zibik would dominate in poland)?
The Impaller versus the World (or someone else?): 11/21/2011 08:02:18


Perrin3088 
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the difficult part of any *X vs the world* scenarios is getting people that won't cheat by observing the forum posts themselves..
The Impaller versus the World (or someone else?): 11/21/2011 13:50:37

Qi 
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yeah. so i'd suggest heyheuhei and saladin as a team (if you want a 2v2 or 3v3): hhh doesnt read the forum posts much and saladin doesnt seem to at all. hard to cheat when the players just dont really care to read what is written
The Impaller versus the World (or someone else?): 11/21/2011 20:18:10


Mablung
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now all you would have to do is name the forum post "blacklist mablung, cause he sucks" or something like that. and then invite hey and saladin, and never tell them that they are actually playing the world. If they dont visit the forums much, I really dont think that they would ever click on those blacklist/crying/noobsauce posts.

or you could name the forum fluffy kittens (yea that was inspired by myhand's pic) and i doubt they would look then either
The Impaller versus the World (or someone else?): 11/22/2011 01:20:43


szeweningen 
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Guys, I did participate in the Impaller vs The World, so I can safely say team games are practically not doable. We had a lot of trouble getting votes in in 1vs1 later on, so 3vs3 is insane to plan. I think Impaller would happily take World again since there are new (better) 1vs1 settings and it'd provide a better game this time.
The Impaller versus the World (or someone else?): 11/24/2011 09:04:41

The Impaller 
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I'm not playing much anymore (although the seasonal ladder is sweet, and I'll probably get sucked back in to play that), but I would be willing to do one of these again, regardless of the format. The first one was a cool idea, and a fun game to play even though I got thoroughly trashed by the world!

As for the cheating thing, I'm not sure how to enforce that. I'm pretty sure none of the recognized and respected players would cheat in this. It's not like the result means a whole lot outside of pride and glory anyhow.
The Impaller versus the World (or someone else?): 3/16/2012 01:01:46


Duke 
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The advantage definitely goes to the player not the world. The world got lucky on picks and initial moves. We were also able to stay with the same plan for awhile which made it more effective. Frankly I would take Imp 2 to 1 odds (I pay 2 if I lose and win 1 if win) against the world any day of the week.
The Impaller versus the World (or someone else?): 3/16/2012 01:18:55


Ace Windu 
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Duke, what advantage does the player have over the world?

Also, welcome back :)
The Impaller versus the World (or someone else?): 3/16/2012 01:44:48


Lurtz
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and what about Zibick, Zaeban, and the Imapller vs the entire world, playing 1v1 ? so they would discuss their strategy and thus lover world's advantage....

or another grope of players, maybe [WM] vs the world....

what do you guys think?
The Impaller versus the World (or someone else?): 3/16/2012 06:51:52


szeweningen 
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Actually since the last World vs... game the warlight community produced more top notch 1vs1 players, so I think the immediate advantage would go to The World since most moves are analyzed in-depth with respect to all card pieces, behind-the-fog movement etc. At least I would be more precise than in average games if I were to post comments.
The Impaller versus the World (or someone else?): 3/16/2012 06:53:20


szeweningen 
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@ Lurtz
I am not sure how are other WM members feeling about groping ;)
The Impaller versus the World (or someone else?): 3/16/2012 07:33:51


x 
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do you mean a [WM] committee controlling one player in a 1v1? or a team game where 'the world' controls one of the two teams against us?
The Impaller versus the World (or someone else?): 3/16/2012 07:42:07


x 
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i guess its the first one, considering the first sentence of your post and the other posts in the forum (d'oh). but yeah, that sounds like fun, although not sure we're the calibre of the impaller when s/he was playing (which was kind of the point of the '___ v the world'). maybe the 20 people would be a better choice.
The Impaller versus the World (or someone else?): 3/16/2012 07:43:55


[WM] Anonymous 
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What does your comment mean, Szewe? I don't get the meaning of "groping"
The Impaller versus the World (or someone else?): 3/16/2012 07:49:40


szeweningen 
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Re-read Lurtz's post. Also [20] vs The World game would be almost pointless imho, especially in the 1vs1 since almost all top 1vs1 players are there. Also I'd gladly accept the idea of WM vs The World, but there are too many WM members to consult a 1vs1 game. A huge 10vs10 on Quad Earth could be nice, but I don't see anyone posting 300+ orders per turn on the forum...
The Impaller versus the World (or someone else?): 3/16/2012 19:35:00


[WM] Anonymous 
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i just dont know the meaning of groping :/
The Impaller versus the World (or someone else?): 3/16/2012 20:09:57

The Duke of Ben 
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I'm pretty sure he meant grouping. As in working as a group. I'll let you look up groping in the dictionary.
The Impaller versus the World (or someone else?): 3/16/2012 20:54:11


Lurtz
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yeah, i mean group, writing grupe was typo.
i nearly dided laughuing now when i saw that typo i made actualy mean something and what is its :D :D

anyway, to make clear what i was talking about to people who were not sure - there is most likely no player now that could stand aganist rest of the world a still have significant chance, because there is lot of good players now.
Some people though that it could be solved (in means of keeping _vs the world games live) by switching from 1v1 to team vs team, so there are more playes playing aganist world.
I offered possibility that we could keep game 1v1, but instead make opponent of "the world" controled by GROUP of people, so they would also have some advantages of consulting strategies and having multiple points of wiev. Because advantage of the world lays in "number of heads" and we can balace it by simply adding "heads" to other team too.

Finally, I made proposal that said group could be some of the clans, because:
1) they are used to counsult moves in team games they play together
2) it would be great achievement for them to actually defeat rest of the world
The Impaller versus the World (or someone else?): 3/16/2012 20:56:52


Lurtz
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omg i made typos in that post again...
seriously, i want possibility to edit posts.
The Impaller versus the World (or someone else?): 3/19/2012 15:33:03


myhandisonfire 
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i am not sure if thats only typos ...
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