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Attack By Percentage - Conditional Moves: 12/23/2016 14:39:45


Deadman 
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Awesome work. Now please share the other tricks you're hoarding ;)
shushhhhhhhhhhhhhh ;)
Attack By Percentage - Conditional Moves: 12/23/2016 16:46:38


Arsteel
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It took me about 30 seconds to figure out how this was useful. Then I about had a heart attack.

Edit: After doing some thinking, this thing has so many more applications than just 1 armies 0.o

Edited 12/23/2016 16:56:20
Attack By Percentage - Conditional Moves: 12/23/2016 17:07:15


Master Ryiro 
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EDIT:-some of my values were wrong because it seems 0.5 is rounded off to 0 when transfering armies through percentage unlike how it is while killing armies where it is rounded off to 1

Edited 12/23/2016 20:41:38
Attack By Percentage - Conditional Moves: 12/23/2016 17:56:09


Master Jz 
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I have a spreadsheet on my computer which I use for calculations. I brought it in to google sheets and put the link in my original post. I also added the link to ryiro's document.
Attack By Percentage - Conditional Moves: 12/23/2016 19:55:16


Master Ryiro 
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nice!
i don't think we need my doc anymore,u got it all covered
Attack By Percentage - Conditional Moves: 12/24/2016 00:14:58

Mike
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Brilliant! Thanks for sharing. Best move since Timi's transfer blocade trick.
Attack By Percentage - Conditional Moves: 12/24/2016 00:17:50

(Teishi) Watashinojinseidearimasu
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I dont get it.
Attack By Percentage - Conditional Moves: 12/24/2016 00:36:21


Apollo
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so basically i'll put it in simpler words:

Jz is facing an opponent, she deploys on a territory so there are 10 armies. After delaying she decides to attack her opponent, however as you probably know attacks of 9 are insufficient since they kill they same number of armies as an attack of 8. However she fears that if her opponent attacks her with a small portion of armies she wants all the troops she can for her offensive. So what Jz just discovered is a way for you to either delay with one as usual, BUT if they still do attack you you will have maximal armies for your offensive :)
Attack By Percentage - Conditional Moves: 12/24/2016 02:11:20


Cousin Vicker
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OK... can you explain that as if you were explaining it to a 3 year old....
Attack By Percentage - Conditional Moves: 12/24/2016 02:19:16


Aura Guardian 
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This will add a whole new element in warlight play... and makes the game more complicated as a whole...
Attack By Percentage - Conditional Moves: 12/24/2016 02:24:20


Arsteel
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@Cousin Vicker

For some numbers, attacking with 1 less army kills just as many defending armies. So, you can make the attack happen later (as defending kills a higher percent than attacking) by sending 1 unit back, so it's strategically better, for the most, part to attack later.

However, if you are attacked before you send a unit back, it will still send a unit back and your attack will not be as powerful as it could have been. With these percents, if you get attacked, it will not send that unit back and you will attack with full force. However, if you are attacked, that decimal will round down to 0 armies transferring backwards and all attacking forwards since you have less armies since being attacked.

That's as simple as I can make it while being somewhat precise.

Otherwise, you got this: It sends a unit back to delay a move unless you get attacked before it would send it back.
Attack By Percentage - Conditional Moves: 12/24/2016 04:38:56


Aura Guardian 
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For those that want to memorize delays of ones to use, then use this chart:

3-8 armies --> 17%
9-25 armies --> 6%
26-50 armies --> 2%
50+ armies --> 1%

I think this would be easy to remember and very helpful to know.
Attack By Percentage - Conditional Moves: 12/24/2016 05:24:56


Master Jz 
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In SR, I generally only use the following:
4 13%
6 9%
7 8%
9 6%
11-12 5%
Attack By Percentage - Conditional Moves: 12/24/2016 06:51:33


Aura Guardian 
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You probably have a more solid understanding than I, :P.
Attack By Percentage - Conditional Moves: 12/24/2016 07:17:40


master of desaster 
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Calculating these numbers quickly in your head is easy. With 5 just take 1/5, divide by 2 and add a few % again.

So 8 armies -> 1/8 = 0.125
0.125/2= 0.625
0.0625= 6.25% -> 7%
Attack By Percentage - Conditional Moves: 12/24/2016 09:06:09

Ryzys
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6.25% -> 7%
I don't mean to be pedantic here, MoD, but wouldn't this round down to 6%, as any number with a decimal below 0.5 rounds down to 0? Thanks for the shorthand calculation, though, it's pretty useful!



Anyways, thanks for this thread Jz, it's nice knowing that people are willing to share strategic advice/info to the public, it really helps. Not that I'd use this myself :P
Attack By Percentage - Conditional Moves: 12/24/2016 09:22:14


master of desaster 
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You have to round up since it will never use the extra delay move otherwise

Edit: and add a few % again.

Edited 12/24/2016 09:22:58
Attack By Percentage - Conditional Moves: 12/24/2016 16:12:07


Fleecemaster 
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You have to round up, since that number mod cacluated in that method is the minimum value, if you go under it (by rounding down) then you won't send an army back at all.
Attack By Percentage - Conditional Moves: 12/24/2016 18:11:29

Ryzys
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Oh, cock! I thought normal math would work. Silly me, apologies.

Thanks for the explanations though MoD and Fleece
Attack By Percentage - Conditional Moves: 12/24/2016 20:08:11


Aura Guardian 
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For as good as I am at calculus, I am, unfortunately, terrible at arithmetic. So caluclating these in my head is kind of out of the question, unfortunately.
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