new BIG update
LAST UPDATE: 01/09/2014 9.30 CET

1v1:  2 points each

-8  AHOL: 8-12 Conquistadors 1-4 Military M.   4-1 Lobstrosity   1-3 Noobschool         1-4 
+10 Apex: 13-8 Grona         4-2 Widzisz       2-3 brisk         2-2 Frankdeslimste     5-1 
+6  WG:  13-10 Summer        3-3 Marc2013      4-2 Tenshi        6-0 Andersault         0-5 
+16 WM:   15-7 Gnuffone      4-2 Falker        4-2 Anonymous     3-1 Longhouse          4-2 
-10 BIA:  8-14 Synestesia    2-4 Green Beret   3-3 George        1-4 Goatfinger         2-2 
-16 GG:   7-15 Bzox          0-6 JV            2-4 MG            1-3 Master of Strategy 4-2 
+2  VIW: 11-10 Lord Syvedyas 6-0 Seahawks      1-5 General Gror  2-3 Dreamer            2-2
               
              Lord Syevedyas win                      Tenshi win           Frank win
                the RR for VIW!                     the RR for WG!      the RR for apex!

2v2: 3 points each

+0 WM:   4-4 Anonymous/Old Surehand 2-1 Gnuffone/Falker           2-3 
+12WG:   5-1 Marc/ChrisCMU          3-0 Mirror/Ineffable          2-1
-9 AHOL: 1-4 Lawm/Military          1-2 Lobstrosity/Noobschool    0-2 
+6 Apex: 3-1 Grona/Widzisz          0-1 Frankdeslimiste/lolowut   3-0 
-12BIA:  1-5 BigE/Turing            0-1 Botanator/Drumming        1-4 
+9 GG:   5-2 FlyingB./Greenstorm    2-1 Michael/Dutch Desire      3-1 
-6 VIW:  1-3 Carlos Danger/MoOoOoO  0-2 Airnewbie/Pushover        1-1 


1v1 + 2v2: 

+16 Apex:  35-19
+16 WM:    42-26
+18 WG:    41-23
-7  GG:    29-36 
-4  VIW:   25-29  
-22 BIA:   19-41
-17 AHOL:  19-36 

3v3:  4 points each

-8  AHOL: 1-3 Ema20      Pooh         13Cris37
+16 WM:   4-0 Gnuffone   Fridge       Latnox 
+16 WG:   5-1 ChrisCMU   Ineffable    Summer 
-8  VIW:  2-4 Doshprous  CoperniC     Pervy Chicken 
-8  GG:   0-2 Aranka     Mannerheim   Orinicoflows
+4  Apex: 2-1 Brisk      Grona        Lolowut 
-12 BIA:  1-4 DynamiteT  Piper        Vanguard 


Total:                         TOTAL POINT: 108 1v1: 6*4*2=48 2v2: 6*2*3=36 3v3: 6*1*4=24
                               Point assigned       Point left
+34 1. WG:    61-27                  88                  20
+32 2. WM:    58-26                  84                  24
+20 3. Apex:  43-23                  66                  42
-13 4. VIW:   33-45                  78                  30
-13 5. GG:    29-42                  71                  37
-34 7. BIA:   23-57                  80                  28
-31 6. AHOL:  17-48                  65                  43

Link
1v1 #1 http://warlight.net/MultiPlayer?TournamentID=7793
1v1 #2 http://warlight.net/MultiPlayer?TournamentID=7794
1v1 #3 http://warlight.net/MultiPlayer?TournamentID=7795
1v1 #4 http://warlight.net/MultiPlayer?TournamentID=7796
2v2 #1 http://warlight.net/MultiPlayer?TournamentID=7797
2v2 #2 http://warlight.net/MultiPlayer?TournamentID=7798
3v3 #1 http://warlight.net/MultiPlayer?TournamentID=7799

Edited 2/10/2014 07:44:26

Can you double check the point totals? I'd rather get an accurate update than an inaccurate one. For instance shouldn't "-4 VIW: 2-4" actually be "-8 VIW: 2-4"?

sorry, the total was right, i just forgot to put -8 in 3v3. :P

I am confused at when your last update was (I don't see anything in here for February, though I think your 1/5 one was 2/5).

Can you give us an update in a new post at the end of this thread? I say keep doing new post. Thanks.

who will be taking the reins as JSA is gone? i would like to ask them something.

Not sure, that is up to JSA I suppose. Unless he says nothing before being gone.

i asked him a while ago but he has not responded(gnuff has been doing a bunch so i nominate gnuff)

I will be taking over the Leagues, but I would like Chris and Apollo to be advisors/helpers/minions :)

new BIG update
LAST UPDATE: 02/17/2014 8.30 CET

1v1:  2 points each

-6  AHOL: 9-12 Conquistadors 1-4 Military M.   4-1 Lobstrosity   1-3 Noobschool         2-4 
+14 Apex: 15-8 Grona         4-2 Widzisz       2-3 brisk         4-2 Frankdeslimste     5-1 
+6  WG:  13-10 Summer        3-3 Marc2013      4-2 Tenshi        6-0 Andersault         0-5 
+16 WM:   15-7 Gnuffone      4-2 Falker        4-2 Anonymous     3-1 Longhouse          4-2 
-14 BIA:  8-15 Synestesia    2-4 Green Beret   3-3 George        1-5 Goatfinger         2-3 
-18 GG:   7-16 Bzox          0-6 JV            2-4 MG            1-4 Master of Strategy 4-2 
+2  VIW: 11-10 Lord Syvedyas 6-0 Seahawks      1-5 General Gror  2-3 Dreamer            2-2
               
              Lord Syevedyas win                      Tenshi win           Frank win
                the RR for VIW!                     the RR for WG!      the RR for apex!

2v2: 3 points each

-3 WM:   4-5 Anonymous/Old Surehand 2-2 Gnuffone/Falker           2-3 
+15WG:   6-1 Marc/ChrisCMU          3-0 Mirror/Ineffable          3-1
-3 AHOL: 3-4 Lawm/Military          2-2 Lobstrosity/Noobschool    1-2 
+3 Apex: 4-3 Grona/Widzisz          1-2 Frankdeslimiste/lolowut   3-1 
-15BIA:  1-6 BigE/Turing            0-2 Botanator/Drumming        1-4 
+9 GG:   5-2 FlyingB./Greenstorm    2-1 Michael/Dutch Desire      3-1 
-6 VIW:  2-4 Carlos Danger/MoOoOoO  1-2 Airnewbie/Pushover        1-2 


1v1 + 2v2: 

+17 Apex:  42-25
+13 WM:    42-29
+21 WG:    44-23
-9  GG:    29-38 
-4  VIW:   28-32  
-29 BIA:   19-48
-9  AHOL:  27-36 

3v3:  4 points each

-4  AHOL: 2-3 Ema20      Pooh         13Cris37
+20 WM:   5-0 Gnuffone   Fridge       Latnox 
+16 WG:   5-1 ChrisCMU   Ineffable    Summer 
-8  VIW:  2-4 Doshprous  CoperniC     Pervy Chicken 
-8  GG:   0-2 Aranka     Mannerheim   Orinicoflows
-4  Apex: 2-3 Brisk      Grona        Lolowut 
-12 BIA:  1-4 DynamiteT  Piper        Vanguard 


Total:                         TOTAL POINT: 108 1v1: 6*4*2=48 2v2: 6*2*3=36 3v3: 6*1*4=24
                               Point assigned       Point left
+37 1. WG:    64-27                  91                  17
+33 2. WM:    62-29                  91                  17
+13 3. Apex:  50-37                  87                  21
-12 4. VIW:   36-48                  84                  24
-15 6. GG:    29-44                  73                  35
-13 5. AHOL:  35-48                  83                  25
-41 7. BIA:   23-64                  89                  19

Link
1v1 #1 http://warlight.net/MultiPlayer?TournamentID=7793
1v1 #2 http://warlight.net/MultiPlayer?TournamentID=7794
1v1 #3 http://warlight.net/MultiPlayer?TournamentID=7795
1v1 #4 http://warlight.net/MultiPlayer?TournamentID=7796
2v2 #1 http://warlight.net/MultiPlayer?TournamentID=7797
2v2 #2 http://warlight.net/MultiPlayer?TournamentID=7798
3v3 #1 http://warlight.net/MultiPlayer?TournamentID=7799

Edited 2/17/2014 20:44:08

Thanks Gnuffone.

Sure, I can help Miyagi. Glad you will be doing it (I will be pretty busy with the challenge league and also advising Ineffable with WSOW/Manager league). I would suggest getting Gnuffone's input also next season (assuming he hasn't retired :)

Well, crap, when did AHoL catch up? Gonna come down to the wire... ^^;

Yeah, looks like good battle for top spot, and also good battle to avoid 2nd demotion spot.

RANKING POTENTIAL - as we can see - theoretically speaking - much can still happen..

                  |       points        |     place     |
Place  Clan       | current  max   min  |  best  worst  |
    1  WG         | +37      54     20  |  1st    3ex   |
    2  WM         | +33      50     16  |  1st    4th   |
    3  Apex       | +13      34     -8  |  1st    6th   |
    4  VIW        | -12      12    -36  |  3rd    7th   |
    5  AHoL       | -13      12    -38  |  3rd    7th   |
    6  GG         | -15      20    -50  |  1ex    7th   |
    7  BIA        | -41     -22    -60  |  4th    7th   |

Edited 2/18/2014 17:15:38

Well, that ignores matchups though as well. There may be "x" points left for a clan, but it doesn't factor who they are against. Lets say WM and WG have a matchup. If one loses, the other wins, which means a clan like GG may not be able to catch 1st. You'd have to go pretty far into it to actually figure out the cause and effect on each matchup.

It also ignores games that are basically finished, a team just has not surrendered yet (impossible for anyone not in those games to know). But yes, a lot can happen. Usually there is not incredible movement near the end though unless someone just gets booted a ton.

that's true Chris - i've been thinking about it - but it's way to much time consuming to bother - this way it's close enough..

While Chris is right, a quick peek at the tourneys suggest that all of the fringe cases (GG first, Apex 6th, WG 3rd) are possible in this case.

I looked at our matchups and we have none with WM left, so it may be possible for some fringe cases. But we also have a matchup with apex left, so if we lose to them and someone like WM loses to them, it may push apex ahead of where the fringe can reach.

But yeah, I wouldn't go that far into it. I'm sure in another few days more games will end and it will become much clearer. In case you are wondering, I looked at WM and ours to see what was left (yesterday)...

WG has these left:
Andersault vs Dreamer
Ineffable/Mirror vs AIRNewbie/Pushover
Ineffable/Mirror vs Lobstrosity/Noobschool (not started)
marc/Chris vs CarlosDanger/MoOoOoOoO
marc/Chris vs BigE/Turing
marc/Chris vs grona/Widzisz (not started)


WM has these left:
Anonymous vs lobstrosity
Anonymous vs GeneralGror
Falker/Gnuffone vs lobstrosity/Noobschool
Anonymous/Old Surehand vs Flyingburrito/Green Storm
Anonymous/Old Surehand vs Carlos Danger/MoOoOoOoO
Gnuffone/Fridge/Latnox vs brisk/grona/Lolowut
Gnuffone/Fridge/Latnox vs Mannerheim/orinocoflows/Aranka

^Well to determine if GG can win all you need are those games (In particular, ones involving two of WM/WG/Apex), and it does check out (Barely).

It's probably easier to not even think about these fringe cases as they're barely possible anyway. (WG/WM losing most/all of their last games? Apex only winning vs. WM/WG?)

On the other hand...

Well, crap, when did AHoL catch up? Gonna come down to the wire... ^^;
Obviously they had a huge morale boost after the USA beat Russia 3-2.

Edited 2/18/2014 18:41:09

Hey, I want GG to go on a streak (we don't play them anymore). So hopefully Fridge's min/max score post inspires them to beat WM :)

new BIG update
LAST UPDATE: 02/19/2014 19.00 CET

1v1:  2 points each

-4  AHOL: 11-13Conquistadors 2-4 Military M.   4-2 Lobstrosity   3-3 Noobschool         2-4 
+16 Apex: 16-8 Grona         4-2 Widzisz       3-3 brisk         4-2 Frankdeslimste     5-1 
+6  WG:  13-10 Summer        3-3 Marc2013      4-2 Tenshi        6-0 Andersault         0-5 
+16 WM:   16-8 Gnuffone      4-2 Falker        4-2 Anonymous     4-2 Longhouse          4-2 
-14 BIA:  8-15 Synestesia    2-4 Green Beret   3-3 George        1-5 Goatfinger         2-3 
-20 GG:   7-17 Bzox          0-6 JV            2-4 MG            1-5 Master of Strategy 4-2 
+0  VIW: 11-11 Lord Syvedyas 6-0 Seahawks      1-5 General Gror  2-4 Dreamer            2-2
               
              Lord Syevedyas win Military win RR      Tenshi win           Frank win
                the RR for VIW!  for AhOl          the RR for WG!      the RR for apex!

2v2: 3 points each

-3 WM:   4-5 Anonymous/Old Surehand 2-2 Gnuffone/Falker           2-3 
+15WG:   6-1 Marc/ChrisCMU          3-0 Mirror/Ineffable          3-1
-3 AHOL: 3-4 Lawm/Military          2-2 Lobstrosity/Noobschool    1-2 
+3 Apex: 4-3 Grona/Widzisz          1-2 Frankdeslimiste/lolowut   3-1 
-15BIA:  1-6 BigE/Turing            0-2 Botanator/Drumming        1-4 
+9 GG:   5-2 FlyingB./Greenstorm    2-1 Michael/Dutch Desire      3-1 
-6 VIW:  2-4 Carlos Danger/MoOoOoO  1-2 Airnewbie/Pushover        1-2 


1v1 + 2v2: 

+19 Apex:  44-25
+13 WM:    44-31
+21 WG:    44-23
-11 GG:    29-40 
-6  VIW:   28-34  
-29 BIA:   19-48
-7  AHOL:  31-38 

3v3:  4 points each

-4  AHOL: 2-3 Ema20      Pooh         13Cris37
+20 WM:   5-0 Gnuffone   Fridge       Latnox 
+16 WG:   5-1 ChrisCMU   Ineffable    Summer 
-8  VIW:  2-4 Doshprous  CoperniC     Pervy Chicken 
-8  GG:   0-2 Aranka     Mannerheim   Orinicoflows
-4  Apex: 2-3 Brisk      Grona        Lolowut 
-12 BIA:  1-4 DynamiteT  Piper        Vanguard 


Total:                         TOTAL POINT: 108 1v1: 6*4*2=48 2v2: 6*2*3=36 3v3: 6*1*4=24
                               Point assigned       Point left
+37 1. WG:    64-27                  91                  17
+33 2. WM:    64-31                  95                  13
+15 3. Apex:  52-37                  89                  19
-11 5. AHOL:  39-50                  89                  19
-14 4. VIW:   36-50                  86                  22
-17 6. GG:    29-46                  75                  33
-41 7. BIA:   23-64                  89                  19

Link
1v1 #1 http://warlight.net/MultiPlayer?TournamentID=7793
1v1 #2 http://warlight.net/MultiPlayer?TournamentID=7794
1v1 #3 http://warlight.net/MultiPlayer?TournamentID=7795
1v1 #4 http://warlight.net/MultiPlayer?TournamentID=7796
2v2 #1 http://warlight.net/MultiPlayer?TournamentID=7797
2v2 #2 http://warlight.net/MultiPlayer?TournamentID=7798
3v3 #1 http://warlight.net/MultiPlayer?TournamentID=7799

Edited 2/19/2014 18:12:57