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New Idea: Nuclear Bombs: 11/3/2011 13:48:24


Seatide Landon
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What if there were a card out there that could let you nuke a territory. If a territory were nuked, it would turn neutral and be unattackable for a few turns. If I get enough positive feedback here, I'll post the idea on Uservoice.
New Idea: Nuclear Bombs: 11/3/2011 14:46:19


Ruthless 
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I think it may already be on Uservoice but i'm not sure. I know i've posted a Zombie Card which is similar but the territory turns into an AI that's on it's own team and attacks everyone
New Idea: Nuclear Bombs: 11/3/2011 15:17:37

Qi 
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I like both ideas. My idea: Nuclear Zombie Terrorist Card. Territory becomes a rogue state with 8-12 nukes (weapons inspectors don't know the exact number). And the zombie terrorist nukes everyone that looks at it funny.
New Idea: Nuclear Bombs: 11/3/2011 15:21:07


Stonearm
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The notion of being able to use nukes reminds me of a risk-like board game called Supremacy that was based on the cold war era. It took the risk-like genre to a new level by adding in resources, economics, star-wars programs, chem/bio-warfare, and of course nukes. One of the things that really set it apart from risk was that you didn't have any guaranteed income. You had to buy your units and spend various types of resources to create new units. Your armies have to eat after all.

I think it would be an interesting thing to see something of this scope given the WARLIGHT treatment.
New Idea: Nuclear Bombs: 11/3/2011 17:04:48


myhandisonfire 
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How about once a territory is hit by a nuke, a nuclear cloud is formed, attacking in a random direction with 100 armies. In the meantime all income is halved to simulate the populations discontent. The terrorists gain half the income and add it to the nuclear cloud, that in the next turn spreads in double the directions with half the strength.
You can counter it with an enviromental protection card, where all your income is used up to plant trees.
New Idea: Nuclear Bombs: 11/3/2011 17:22:08


Oliebol 
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How about a thermonuclear war card, if played everybody loses. It might be our only chance for a lasting peace.
New Idea: Nuclear Bombs: 11/3/2011 17:37:08


Mian 
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What about keeping WL quite simple and analytic while letting exotic cards to an improbable future or another game called 'Command and Conquer' or something ? ^^
New Idea: Nuclear Bombs: 11/3/2011 18:03:41

Qi 
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I think we should use a nuclear card on Mian.
New Idea: Nuclear Bombs: 11/3/2011 19:30:11


Mian 
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Philippe Auguste was a pear.
New Idea: Nuclear Bombs: 11/3/2011 19:48:00


angel 
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LOL! This post really made me laugh! Love the zombie idea, we really must have this card. All great ideas XD
New Idea: Nuclear Bombs: 11/3/2011 21:10:49

Qi 
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No, Philippe II was not a peer. He was king.
New Idea: Nuclear Bombs: 11/3/2011 21:14:28


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New Idea: Nuclear Bombs: 11/3/2011 21:15:52


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New Idea: Nuclear Bombs: 11/3/2011 21:16:19


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New Idea: Nuclear Bombs: 11/3/2011 21:16:25


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New Idea: Nuclear Bombs: 11/3/2011 21:16:32


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New Idea: Nuclear Bombs: 11/3/2011 21:22:27


Domenico
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*Is that a falling nuke I'm hearing?*
New Idea: Nuclear Bombs: 11/3/2011 21:46:04


Moros 
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BOOM!
New Idea: Nuclear Bombs: 11/3/2011 23:40:13

RvW 
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@Seatide Landon:
Your suggestion reminds me of a game called "Risk 2210 AD". Wizards has a nice online [demonstration](http://www.wizards.com/avalonhill/flash/riskdemo_021210.html) of it. Maybe you'd also be interested in the [Wikipedia article](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Risk_2210_A.D.) about the game.

Some of its concepts (such as sea colonies and extra territories on the Moon) could be readily copied to Warlight, especially if the one-way connections I saw suggested in another thread are implemented.
Some other concepts (rolling with a D8 under certain conditions, the entire concept of commanders) would probably require a significant rewrite to the code. Also, it makes the game more "messy", less predictable... I'm not sure whether most players would like that.

Of course, there's copyright law to consider; outright copying their Lunar map and adding their sea colonies is asking for trouble. But if someone happens to have the game and wouldn't mind reading through the stack of command cards and use the best / most appropriate ones as inspiration for suggesting new Warlight cards, I *guess* (I'm not a lawyer!) that would be okay?
New Idea: Nuclear Bombs: 11/4/2011 10:40:17


Creeping Death
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I like the zombie card idea, but not the nukes. And I especially hate the "random direction" idea. It will always fall on my territories, I am sure.
New Idea: Nuclear Bombs: 11/4/2011 12:32:42


denzyman 
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*Philippe Auguste was a pear.*

+1. They definitely have something common.

![](http://www.histoire-en-ligne.com/IMG/jpg/philipp2auguste.jpg)

![](http://photo-dict.faqs.org/photofiles/list/6784/8992packham_pear.jpg)
New Idea: Nuclear Bombs: 11/4/2011 12:43:49


Mian 
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See ? See ?! ^_^
New Idea: Nuclear Bombs: 11/5/2011 03:26:46


Gnullbegg 
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![](http://www.taz.de/uploads/hp_taz_img/norm/titanic_cover.jpg)
no one will beat the pearest of 'em all!

btw this is my first post (a good one, innit?^^) so im a zomgNOOB!11 but I must state I wouldn't like a nuke card, this would add too much of a random element to the game IMHO.

And Mian, when are you online, mostly? Because I sure could use some tutoring... (sorry for writing this here but I couldn't find any PM feature outside of the games?!)
New Idea: Nuclear Bombs: 11/5/2011 04:57:43

Qi 
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Then I think Denzy has the wrong name. His picture looks like a pear too. We can be Team Pear.
New Idea: Nuclear Bombs: 11/5/2011 12:20:45


angel 
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LOL!!!!!!!
New Idea: Nuclear Bombs: 11/5/2011 22:26:34

WarGeneral514514
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I would kind of like that idea, but I think it should be a card that you have to get alot of pieces for it, and it will be really rare during a game because:

1.It is too powerful to be played alot of times in a game in which one team or person can get a big winning advantage.

2.If another player is surrounded, then a nuke could collapse their foundation.

3.It could easily make other players lose bonuses by losing a territory.

4.If you had enough nuke cards, then you could eliminate another player.

So, I would like the nuke card if you would have to get alot of pieces for it, and if it would be really rare during a game due to the reasons above.

-WarGeneral514514
New Idea: Nuclear Bombs: 11/5/2011 23:01:07

RvW 
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The way in which Risk 2210 AD prevents nukes from becoming too powerful is exactly by way of randomization. For instance, IIRC there's a card which destroys 4 (?) random territories, but that's *really* completely random; they are selected out of all the territories on the board, including your own. This has several benefits:
- It's risky to play, so people will try not to use the card (even if they have it), if they see another way to reach their goal.
- If you have very few territories left, it becomes safer to play, giving an additional benefit to nearly-defeated players. (In 2210 there's a turn limit, so this can really screw you over if played on the last turn, in Warlight, you'd just retake those territories the next turn (chances are you have them surrounded anyway) and you "only" lose a lot of reinforcements for one turn.)
- If you have a lot of territories (and gotten a card piece every turn, making it easier to complete the nuke card) you really don't want to use it, since chances are you'll only hit yourself.

Additionally, in Warlight there's the benefit of having a card in many pieces which you try to save up; as soon as the card completes, it starts counting against your hand limit (default 3 if memory serves), so people holding onto their nuke card for many turns effectively lose 33% of their order priority, order delay and barricade cards (to name a few you're also likely to hold onto, unlike reinforcements cards which you play directly anyway). I think that's quite a penalty, meaning nuke cards might get discarded (relatively) often, adding to the list of strategic choices you have to make.

I'm not sure if I agree with the "but I don't like this card" argument; if you don't, you just don't enable it in your games, right? The way I see it, it's mostly important there's a significant amount of players who would like the card (well, that and Fizzer liking the idea of course ;) ).
New Idea: Nuclear Bombs: 11/11/2011 11:28:28

Sir Charles
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I have yet to play Multi-player as I am still trying to earn all the Gold Stars for the Single Player. Almost there. Currently working on the Crazy Challenge, then the Insane Challenge. But, I do like the Nuke Card idea. Reminds me of the game Call Of Duty: Modern Warfare 2, of which I play quite a lot.

I agree that the Nuke Card would need to require a lot to achieve. Might be interesting if it was used as an attack option, and not make it act like an Abandon Card.

Something to strongly consider is whether it would be better to have it useable only against neighboring enemy territories, and not ones across the map. But perhaps nuking enemy territories across the map would make it that much more interesting.

I'm sure better experienced players here would have deeper insight into the characteristics of a Nuke Card.

Overall, I like the idea. I may just have to venture out and try Multiplayer sometime soon.
New Idea: Nuclear Bombs: 11/11/2011 11:45:16


Perrin3088 
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Sir Charles, be prepared for a pretty hefty battle in the Insane challange.. and alot of restarts on crazy ;)

that being said.. Humans are both less predictable and more predictable then AI's, just in different ways
New Idea: Nuclear Bombs: 11/12/2011 14:44:00

RvW 
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Another possible suggestion to make a possible nuke card less overpowered: make players choose between either using normal attacks OR playing a nuke card (think about it, wouldn't your armies hide in their bunkers if they know nukes are about to be launched?).
That way, you vaporize a lot of enemy armies, but you can't instantly take advantage of that (especially in combination with multi-attack that would be bad: you already know the map is going to be seriously thinned out when giving orders for that turn), giving your opponent(s) at least some chance to reinforce themselves before you march in the next turn.
Fine-tuning could go both ways: either make it play like an abandon card (always going at the end of your turn, sort-of achieving the idea of not riding in immediately after nuking) or making you skip the reinforcement stage as well (vaporize lots of enemies, but "lose" a lot yourself as well).
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