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Roman Empire imbalance.: 12/15/2013 19:42:09


Krysix
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Roman Empire while being the most popular map is realy imbalanced. Dont u think bonus Parthian Empire should be removed? Its way way stronger (easier to conquer and defend) than other 3 bonuses.
Roman Empire imbalance.: 12/15/2013 19:55:45


[REGL] Pooh 
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Partha is actually not the best. I love people that think it is because they are so easy to beat on that map.

My least favorite players are teammates whose sole word in team chat during territory selection is "Partha." As if they are the king of the world (or Partha) and they have the strategy that will win it all. They don't realize that they are 15 turns away from the action on the rest of the map and Partha is easily countered with just 1 pick.

That being said, Warlight is a highly customizable strategy game where you compete to conquer the world. If you don't like it, turn it off or adjust it.
Roman Empire imbalance.: 12/15/2013 19:59:38


ᕙ༼ຈل͜ຈ༽ᕗ
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I think it is very balanced. as Pooh said Partha is easy to break. But indeed when you get the partha bonus you arent often from gettin Parthan empire. so when I play it with my friends it is always a battle with small armies in partha just fighting for the other not to get the bonus
Roman Empire imbalance.: 12/16/2013 00:24:01

Jehovah 
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Partha and Britiain are best on that map imo
Roman Empire imbalance.: 12/16/2013 11:35:05


Krzysztof 
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Partha is a bit overpowered. As pooh and mikeal wrote, it can be easily counter with just 1 pick, but you should also notice, you have to always take care of Partha. You can consider ignoring Britain/Germany/Greece/Spain and so on, but leaving East is just suicide (as Magna Asia+Partha+ParthianEmpire is worth 88 income), so it's the best proof it's overpowered. I can also agree, that's this value is very often bait for less experienced players(going all for partha and getting counter by 1 pick), but to be honest - with most common settings (3v3, full dist, no wastelands) this map is not very strategic and it's more about predicting your opponents picks than finding optimal strategy.
Roman Empire imbalance.: 12/16/2013 21:00:17


Incaman
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I just couldn't resist posting here :D

I mostly play 4vs4 so this is what is commenting on. First, let me agree on something it could be a bit overpowered but not in a game winning "take partha and it doesn't matter what the others are doing u win" kind of way. Second, I have to regrettably disagree with Krzychu.

"...but you should also notice, you have to always take care of Partha. You can consider ignoring Britain/Germany/Greece/Spain and so on, but leaving East is just suicide..."

Ignoring just about any bonus except sometimes Gallia and Asia will get you killed quite fast. Try ignoring Hispania and u will quickly meet a stack of 40-50 and get overrun. I'm not talking about countering it with other bonus as Brittania can be countered with Germania and Hispania with Arfica and so on. The problem here is that Partha cannot be countered with Asia as it get bigger faster. But it can be countered with just Macedonia if Illiricum and Africa are kept at check so there are too may possibilities to discuss here.

"...and it's more about predicting your opponents picks than finding optimal strategy."

Counter picking is a big part of Warlight play so i have to disagree with you on this. You cannot expect that u just pick somewhere and expand and win without trying to predict your opponents move and pick and counter them.

From what i have heard for other types like 1vs1 picking just Partha gets you killed because the other ones expand quite fast.

BUT i DO agree that it is overpowered in a sense that it is farther from the others and if u expand in macedonia u can be met with africa and illiricum. Brittania can be reached fast
with Hispania and Germania, but partha has no big bonus that can stop it so u have to battle for it directly.

And as always i would like to hear everyone's opinion and experiences on this because at the very end more heads think better than one. And maybe someone found some strategy the others didn't think about.

U can always adjust the bonuses in Warlight, so if anyone found a combination of bonuses that work better i would be happy to check it out :) (maps can be updated with versions and maybe we can share the next improved version of it together :))))

Edited 12/16/2013 21:04:36
Roman Empire imbalance.: 12/17/2013 12:27:44


Krzysztof 
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Ignoring just about any bonus except sometimes Gallia and Asia will get you killed quite fast. Try ignoring Hispania and u will quickly meet a stack of 40-50 and get overrun.


It depends on how many picks you have. With 3v3 or more and 3 picks per player i agree - you shouldn't ignore anything. But playing 1v1 with 3 picks? You can't control everyting and you will surely won't leave parhta.


Counter picking is a big part of Warlight play so i have to disagree with you on this. You cannot expect that u just pick somewhere and expand and win without trying to predict your opponents move and pick and counter them.

Alright, but let's imagine you look at the map and you see nice pick combination (let's call it A). You analyze it and you notice, that it can be easily countered by combination B. So you want switch to B, but it's not that good as B can be countered by C. Unfortunatley, comparing to first combination (A), C is bad. So we have A < B, B < C, C < A. There's no difference between choosing one of it and and playing papper-rock-scissor game.
But to be clear - it's not map issue, but it's strictly related to settings.
Roman Empire imbalance.: 12/20/2013 08:45:34


ᕙ༼ຈل͜ຈ༽ᕗ
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I think ror(rise of rome) got some real cool timings. Incaman you have to use your humungus brain and create another similar map.

Edited 12/20/2013 09:03:16
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