Zionism itself is a legitimate concept (Jews need a state).
Alright. How about you do that without committing loads of ethnic cleansing.
We can discuss where Israel should be and how large it should be later but Israel does need to exist which is as natural as the existence of France.
No we can discuss it's "need" to exist. If French folk were scattered across the globe, should they all be brought to one region and then made citizens of some French state? Why? What good does it do, to have a government declare that you're it's citizen because of religion or ethnicity?
The US has gone head-over-heels to support Israel. I'd say it's mostly a good thing, considering how well the country is doing compared to their neighbors. But Israel has the Iron Dome, pretty much giving them a very good missile defense system.
I say it's time the US stopped funding Israel. Not sever all ties, but the Israelis are capable of holding on by themselves.
The Jews have been unfairly treated throughout most of history basically because at one point in time they happened own a lot of money and a bunch of fat white westerners didn't like that. They deserve a state, and it should be where Israel currently is.
Besides that, no excuse for this. We've all known Israel has had nukes and there probably pointed to Iran but it's not just that. The Jews literally committed a miniature holocaust when it came to clearing out all non Jewish folks. If they are so worried about weapons of mass destruction in the Middle East, they should be a bit more honest about their own. Change starts with yourselfs.
Also, I'm not totally sure about Iran using a nuke. I don't think the current government would allow such a thing but any man who underestimates the power religion has when it posses a man is an idiot. I do think Iran would blackmail the living shit out of everyone and probably sell parts of the technology to certain terrorist groups
The Jews have been unfairly treated throughout most of history basically
Should American blacks have a state in the south because they were treated unfairly in most of US history?
They deserve a state, and it should be where Israel currently is.
They shouldn't be moved, but they defintely shouldn't have been set up there in the first place. They had millions of folk there that would be displaced by this state, and it'd be starting a large religious conflict since you'd be putting what three religions call a holy land into the hands of one that is at war with the surrounding religion. It should have been given to a secular Trans-Jordan.
^ Jews lived there a 1000 (or more) years? so they kinda do have a right to be there, and your African American analogy, they haven't lived there for over 500?, maybe less, and your idea with the "Secular Trans-Jordan" is not exactly a good one, due to that would put even more of a stress on the region wouldn't it
tbh karl, this forum has mostly moved on from you being its resident punching bag. your trolling is repetitive + less and less people are taking the bait now. come up with something original to make a meme out of please, because that's all you're useful for.
EDIT: ↓ exactly my point haha. just same recycled memes. time to move on, because karl is milked for all he's worth.