Join the OT Watch! Our mission:

• Upvote every non-spam thread
  
• Oppose Tabby's attempts to destroy freedom of speech
  
• Prevent thread hijacking by Tabby and Karl
  
• Remedy the harm caused by the Felidae Downvoting Army (FDA)
  

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I think there's quite a few that already do that :)

They can join then, and make it organised.

Mhm, mhm. Tell me about group benefits. What is the political standing of the OT Watch? You got me snagged here but you need to reel me in.

The OT Watch's principles are based on the principles of the Ankh-Morpork City Watch. We have no political standing, because politicians are fools - except for Vetinari of course, but he is not on WL.

Mhm, mhm, mhm. Well Mr.Vimes I have to say I'm not really sold on the idea of a OT Watch. Although you have given an example of what the OT Watch is modeled off of, I can't really say I know what we stand for. For starters I've never read the book series of which the Ankh-Morpork City Watch originates from. Furthermore you avoided my question in regards to benifits for group members. I'm going to need more information before I commit to this cause.

Benefits for group members? Warm fuzzy feelings.

It's 'Commander Vimes' to you.

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Mhm, mhm. What about travelers comp? Is there any health benefits besides warm fuzzy feelings? Will my dental be covered by the OT Watch?

There is the widows and orphans fund, but that is it.

Well Mr. Vimes....Gonna have to say no to this one. This opportunity doesn't provide financial stability for me or my family of 3. What if I'm injured on the job? Who will provide for my family while I'm paying my own medical bills? Medical bills or insurance aren't cheap here in America.

Igor can fix up all of your medical issues.

I don't know how I feel about the man who helped make a monster. Sorry Mr.Vime but it's still a no.

Helped make a monster? I don't want anti-Uberwald prejudice in the Watch.

Ill join

I agree that tabby has gone too far. But we don't need an organisation to stop obvious BS.

:P

Do I have toooo?

I don't care about fascism. All I care about is that people are able to make threads without fear of them being hidden for no reason other than Tabby doesn't agree with them.

I'm willing to back down.:-)

Really? Is that why there is now 44 hidden threads in OT?

I support the goals stated in the OP. Unfortunately, I won't be monitoring the forums, I'm just back briefly for a short visit to see how WL is doing (and waiting for my last game to start).

I'll repost a recommendation I made in another wrongly buried thread, https://www.warlight.net/Forum/184394-downvoters-want-ban-discussions-warlight:

I've seen so many hidden threads in warlight since the new update has been implemented. What do you think of the people that downvote threads which are based on politics, race and other subjects?

I just spent a chunk of time going through some of the hidden threads, finding ones that have been wrongfully downvoted, and upvoting them. E.g. I just upvoted this thread and downvoted Speng's and a couple other flamey comments. The topic of the thread itself is legit, even if you don't like the OP poster or some of the comments/commenters below it.

Here's a few tips for people who really want to help the forums and avoid pointless voting wars:

- Only downvote a thread if the OP itself is junk. If you're just sick of trolling and flaming in the comments then downvote the trolling and flaming comments, not the whole thread.

- If you downvote whole threads just because of some annoying bickering in the comments, you'll end up fostering a vote-war culture in the forums.

- Take the time to make your downvotes *accurate*. This way, you'll foster a culture where people put more thought into their comments, and the overall quality of the forums will improve. Invest in this strategy *now*, and you'll have a lot less downvoting to do in the future.

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Tabby, just for the record, I've been downvoting all your comments that call for banning, suppressing, or deleting political/controversial speech. I really think you should re-think your stance on how to address the *real* problem of political extremism. You are resorting to the authoritarian measure of attempting to silence speech you don't agree with. That is one of the worst reactions possible.

The way to fight bad ideas is with good ideas. The way to fight speech you don't like is with *more* speech, not the suppression of speech. (There are a few exceptions to this, such as defamation, etc., but political/controversial speech does not fall under these exceptions.) In other words, use your speech to counter others' BS; don't try to shut them up.

You may want to explore other options than just logical argumentation. For example, I would recommend trying to respond with satire and humour: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Satire. It's one of the best ways to critique truly terrible ideas. Show the public the absurdity of what you call 'Nazism' (which is an inaccurate label, btw).

PS: Am I being a hypocrite by downvoting your comments? No. Because I am not trying to suppress your ability to speak, I'm only using downvoting as a mechanism to improve the quality of the forums, as Fizzer intended. I believe that, if your efforts were to continue and grow 'successful', it would drastically reduce the quality of the forums. You can express and explore the idea of censorship without outright advocating that it be implemented.

Your efforts to censor others is currently promoting -- and will only result in -- a culture and atmosphere of voting wars. And if Fizzer were to acquiesce to your demands (I severely doubt he would, frankly), the forums would degenerate quickly and end up an authoritarian wasteland of ideas. I've personally witnessed this happen on several occasions over the years.

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