wthigo?!?!

On phone so I did not watch game...will not comment on surrender being legit

That being said, stalling is not the same as throwing a game IMO. Stalling is not creating wins that are not legit. Not accusing anyone, just separating the two

Red, you care too much. Does Mannerheim deserve first? Yes. Would he have got it anyway without that game? Probably. So who cares. It is the same as WM Gnuff getting first on the 2v2 ladder even though he was eliminated and would have lost a game. Or WM Sze losing to a bad player on luck but that player surrendering, which allowed him to reach first. Or WM whining about Clan League 3v3 points and convincing your whipping boy to change the points and allow WM to win. So let's tone down the Whiny Madness.

I wouldn't say that game was lost... but surely the surrender was premature. Happens.

Or WM whining about Clan League 3v3 points and convincing your whipping boy to change the points and allow WM to win.

WM would win even if the 3vs3 was worth 3 points. Just saying.

But other than that, I think Gui is right, some people here care a bit too much.

Congrats Mannerheim!

He did not topple my majestic 2357, infact he didnt even break 2300 so in many ways he will always be second best.

Also he made a 6th pick that literally pained me. If anyone can offer an insight into why he would choose E china then please give me the closure i need; to move on.

Well we all know that you only get your 6 if you get your 5, since Manner's #5 was C Rus, the best non-risky counter to C Rus, imo, is E China, which is why he porbbably picked thtat.

I think it would be assumed that my opponent wouldnt triplepick North as West looks very good, so if i put North as 3,4,5 i'd be pretty confident of getting somewhere thereand if my first 5 picks were like manner's , i'd pick W Africa as 6. i wouldnt have picked how either picked really, but go 1SA 2 Ant 3Scan 4 Green and try 11 on turn 2

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you only get your 6th if you dont get your 5th and 4th. If you were going to counter the russias why would you not pick caucasus?

I think they both had the same idea of basically countering the picks you mentioned, especially jupiter putting SA 1st. He was hoping mannerheim picks in the way you describe and then if he gets first pick AA is dominated, and if he gets second then he can counter SA and go on to attack AA through it.

if you put 6 as Caus, then i think you'd be pretty safe to assume Manner would get his 3 as well, since Jupe would probably not triplepick.

Whats the point of having Caus if you have Scan? Better grow in West Africa, and let your scan do the job.

It is the same as WM Gnuff getting first on the 2v2 ladder even though he was eliminated and would have lost a game. Or WM Sze losing to a bad player on luck but that player surrendering, which allowed him to reach first.

Is so hard for you to understand that gnuff or sze's examples were not involving other clan mates or situation which could easly pass by a "deal" decision or a favour? I don't think motocross got booted to let gnuffone win or a random player surrenders to let sze win. But GG jupiter who is not the first noob out there that let GG mannerheim win a game of such importance for his "run" seems strange to me. I would put my hand on fire that wasn't casual.

Or WM whining about Clan League 3v3 points and convincing your whipping boy to change the points and allow WM to win.

As widz said it wouldn't matter anyway, and by the way, when did you see me or WM asking for the change at all cost to "save the situation"?I didn't even know the 3v3 changed points, not to say that JSA is none's boy by any chance, he wasn't even in WM so you could say it was a "clan favour". Stop this f****ing misinormation and metropolitan belifes and get your sh*t toghter Gui. When you will come with some serious example of me doing that, that i will say you are right, until than, no.

i'm being completely neutral here, but knowing jay, he'd probably abuse his privilege and modify the system to his advantage, although it could be the case that his clan leaders are innocent and had no idea.

As i said before, he wasn't in WM, he wouldn't have any reason to change that to advantage us.

It's hilarious to see Anonoob start hate threads about other clans' players, while gracefully turning a blind eye when his own clanmates do the exact same thing. Why didn't he report [WM] piggy and [WM] gnuffy when the first gave the second a boot win and #1 in the ladder??

If WM Anonoob truly were all about the TRUTH like he claims to be, he would have reported piggy and gnuffy a long time ago. But instead, when gnuffy offered him #1 on the ladder, not only chose Anonoob to be quiet about it, but he also now uses this case as evidence of his own moral superiority. What a LIAR and a HYPOCRITE.

What's also funny is that he shouts profanities and barks at mannerhim, jupe, jay, shuai, and whoever, and then claims that "wtf" is not short for "what the f*ck" but for "what the hell is going on". After this he pictures himself as some kind of victim, being a target of ridicule because of his nationality and bad english. This has happened - over the course of this whole thread - exactly zero times. I can't believe this sad crybaby has made it to the top of a prestigeous clan such WM???

Said the alt account. Grow some balls kid.

Why don't you all just chill? He is first, either he is good enough to keep it, or he isn't and he will fall. Either way, he is a good player, that's no dispute.

Life will go on, I promise.

When did you realize I'm an alt!? You must be a pretty brainy guy. Interesting still to hear about "growing balls" from someone who likes to be "anonymous".

So to the questions I just asked, your answer will be "no comment"? Grow some balls anonymouse and give a real answer!

Its understandable that whenever in an area where so much money and fame is involved like in warlight, people take whatever means to achieve their prestigous goals.

That is what Mannerheim did and that is what we all would have done if we would have had the chance. We should check the cash flow from Jupiter to Mannerheim to find out what really happened. Sadly most of us are still forced to play warlight on an amateur level and that is where the jealousy kicks in.

We are unrecognized, unappreciated crowd players.

Its understandable that whenever in an area where so much money and fame is involved like in warlight, people take whatever means to achieve their prestigous goals.

That is what Mannerheim did and that is what we all would have done if we would have had the chance. We should check the cash flow from Jupiter to Mannerheim to find out what really happened. Sadly most of us are still forced to play warlight on an amateur level and that is where the jealousy kicks in.

We are unrecognized, unappreciated crowd players.

Please, tell me who you are because your level is 6 ft under. You speak like a teen who still need to have the first shave.

Try to follow this logic process: this is my main account, anonymous is just a nickname, i'm THAT anonymous that guess what? You can click on my facebook profile!!! Caramba che sorpresa!!! I won't waste my time replying to your post as long as you won't show yourself for the loser you are.

What a lot of drama on here....

Clearly you guys are capable of flaming around and throwing mud at each other even in my absence - Good job

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