none of these are multicultural

They all have multiple cultures.

That doesn't refute my point.

Yes it does, they achieved their goals so they did not fail.

Japan didn't attack first.

Yes they did, the US did not attack before Pearl Harbor, stop making things up.

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Cancer

deflecting and I don't resort to solely namecalling, you have.

Not deflecting, and you did resort solely to namecalling.

http://www.nbcnews.com/news/world/huge-nato-drills-poland-prepare-west-possible-conflict-russia-n593456

Austro-Hungary, Second Polish Republic, Russian Empire, China, USA

Austro-Hungary : Fell due to the ethnic unrest.

Second Polish Republic : Polish massacred the Germans.

Russian Empire : Do i need to tell you various rebellions of ethnic minorities during it's existence? Russia was not civilized as well, its economy was based on agriculture and most were serfs

China : There were multiple China's and all had rebellions. Almost same with Russia.

USA : USA is not a civilization and i don't think Natives accepted multiculturalism well.

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Austro-Hungary : Fell due to the ethnic unrest.

It fell to World War One

Second Polish Republic : Polish massacred the Germans.

Pidulski accepted different sub cultures

Russian Empire : Do i need to tell you various rebellions of ethnic minorities during it's existence? Russia was not civilized as well, its economy was based on agriculture and most were serfs

Was it a civilization? Yes. Civilization is not based on what kind of economy you have. Was it multi-cultural? Yes. Were there cultural groups that did not rebel often? Yes, the Finns.

China : There were multiple China's and all had rebellions. Almost same with Russia.

Weren't most rebellions caused by general discontent directed torwards the government, and not for nationalist reasons? Even the rebellion that knocked off the dynasties, it wasn't a particularly nationalist one; it accepted all the groups and made a point of it with the flag.

USA : USA is not a civilization and i don't think Natives accepted multiculturalism well.

If a country can be called a civilization, then any country can be called that.

It fell to World War One

-If most ethnicities did not try to overthrow the govt. then WW1 would have gone differently.

Pidulski accepted different sub cultures

-Doesn't mean the people did.

Was it a civilization? Yes. Civilization is not based on what kind of economy you have. Was it multi-cultural? Yes. Were there cultural groups that did not rebel often? Yes, the Finns.

- If Finns were so obedient (also i liked you picking the only one not ''frequently'' rebelling) they would still be a part of Russia or atleast remained for sometime instead of creating a new nation. The moment Russia was in chaos 99 ethnic groups out of 100 rebelled. Also Finns were a new group in the Russian Empire, if you gave them enough time they would also rebel frequently.

Weren't most rebellions caused by general discontent directed torwards the government, and not for nationalist reasons? Even the rebellion that knocked off the dynasties, it wasn't a particularly nationalist one; it accepted all the groups and made a point of it with the flag.

-Nope

If a country can be called a civilization, then any country can be called that.

- I never called a country civilization.

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-If most ethnicities did not try to overthrow the govt. then WW1 would have gone differently.

Wilson and other Western leaders supported ethnic groups getting independence to weaken the Central Powers. They would have likely gotten the same result. Also, didn't the majority of ethnic revolts happen after the war ended?

- If Finns were so obedient (also i liked you picking the only one not ''frequently'' rebelling) they would still be a part of Russia or atleast remained for sometime instead of creating a new nation. The moment Russia was in chaos 99 ethnic groups out of 100 rebelled. Also Finns were a new group in the Russian Empire, if you gave them enough time they would also rebel frequently.

One, the Finns had been around for a century, and two, they were mainly fighting communists and German puppets.

As for China, here's a list of major rebellions. As you can see, the majority were caused by gripes with the government.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_rebellions_in_China

- I never called a country civilization.

We basically agreed that Austria-Hungary was a civilization. That's calling a country a civilization.

You agreed on that with Karl, not me.

There is a line between the meanings of civilized and civilization.

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Pidulski accepted different sub cultures

Fully not, he's a very hated man in west Belarus and Ukraine, and the Germans back then living in Poland also hated him. He set up concentration camps for each them.

Squiggles is not a part of the west.

Ehh not sure actually. If I were Davis, I would have ordered a main thrust into Maryland much sooner. The only way to have won the war would have been by basically killing the heart of the Republic. Washington. That was Lee's plan until he fucked up. I would have also taken advantage of the slave population like the Britts in the Revolution. Fight for us and we will free you. There was roughly 10 million slaves south of Virginia alone. Imagine if they had enlisted just half of them?. I would have also offered cotton prices so low that the British and French would have been forced to break the blockade ( Since the world economy was failing I think it would have worked ). And why the heck did Jefferson never accept any plans to kill Lincoln in his reelection?. If Lincoln had died, McClellan would have handed freedom to them on a golden platter.

People cared about ethics in war thats why. also wouldn't freeing the slaves ruin the whole point why the south fought i mean the seceded to keep slavery intact for generations to come.

In most lands where slavery was widespread, slavery was banned incrementally, and sometimes, there was no full ban on slavery, just the import of. In Ching China, there was a very high tax put on slave-owners, which freed most slaves, except in wealthy families. In Argentina, there was "law of the womb" - slaves' children were born free.

If the South had been fighting for abolition then they would have access to a couple million blacks to use as soldiers.