Fascism is opposed to any free market. Hitler, Mussolini, FDR, they were all anti-free market.

The citizen in the Fascist State is no longer a selfish individual who has the anti-social right of rebelling against any law of the Collectivity. The Fascist State with its corporative conception puts men and their possibilities into productive work and interprets for them the duties they have to fulfill.

- Mussolini


Fascism is opposed to the free market, with it's cartels and heavy regulations.

No it isn't, its opposed to individualism. You don't need to facilitate or support individualism in order to have a free market.

You need individualism for any free market. A free market is made up of individuals using their assets as they wish, not a damned collective, being directed by a state!

>doesn't give an example.

http://www.econlib.org/library/Enc/Fascism.html

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Fascist states don't prevent individuals from making transactions.

They do prevent individuals on occasion from having individual transactions, and reserve the right to do so. That is not a free market.

Your link is just some Jew telling me about fascism. It'd be like a nazi telling me about fascism, idc about their definition of an ideology. I care about the definitions of people who shaped it.

This man is literally jewish and hes an anarchist topkek, why would I depend upon him to give me an accurate description of fascism?

http://sturgiswesthistory.weebly.com/uploads/9/5/2/5/9525566/335845417.jpg

Once again, Mussolini stating that fascism is not compatible with the free market.

Also you're not a Jew or a fascist, why are you describing Judaism or fascism?

That quote doesn't show that fascism is incompatible with the free market.

If fascism is the merger of the state and corporation, and the state has the ultimate power in this form, then the state has control over the market and it is not free.

I don't have any reason to lie, unlike the Jew. Jews aren't trustworthy.

Then why let them keep your money in a bank, and manage your finances? Either they are at the same level of all folk in that some are trustworthy and some aren't, and that's why they were trusted for centuries, or they're all liars, but if they were all liars, no one would employ them to bank their money.

"The only source I need is myself, because everyone else is a liar."

Define free

an economic system in which prices are determined by unrestricted competition between privately owned businesses.

In a fascist system, there are heavy restrictions (as the government is the one determining many factors) and the businesses are only nominally private, as they, as Mussolini stated, have merged with the government to form a fascist government.

Literally no one has trusted the jews until recently.

Then how did they get rich of banking in the first place? Were there not Jewish bankers and money managers in medieval courts, and in the Turkish Empire?

Most people are idiots.

Folk are the smartest beasts on the planet; hold your tongue.

Strawman, tell me that when Jews are 99% of the population, otherwise fuck off.

Judaism is .02% of the population of the world.

no example

http://archive.spectator.co.uk/article/28th-august-1926/16/the-italian-syndical-law

false

Not false, they are ran in cartels ran by the state.

usury, which is an evil practice banned by the church.

Bank loans are not evil, and apparently folk were ok enough with them that they agreed over and over again enough for the Jews to get rich.

I never said humans were unintelligent either.

Most people are idiots.

Kilo said I distrust most people, you've proven my point that I only distrust (without exception) .02% of the population.

Irrelevant

You've failed to give a definition of freedom that doesn't succumb to the black or white fallacy.

Excuse me? You said that businesses aren't in control of the government in fascist society, and I provided the reasoning why they are only nominally private and mostly under the control of government. You're deflecting.

If you've failed to see the harm you're a fool.

What harm is it? I loan some money from you, make a business, and pay you back extra with a little more later.

No feasible alternatives for loans

You know why there wasn't? Because you banned interest from loans. Why would anyone do loans if they couldn't make money from it?

what is this quote supposed to prove?

You stated that the majority of humans are unintelligent, then later backtracked on your statement.

That one manifestation of fascism doesn't define the entire spectrum of fascist thought

Mussolini was the originator of European fascism

Many people are homeless because of usury.

The 2008 crash was caused by the government messing with interest rates.

showing you're materialism and sociopathy.

Ad hominem

Never said that.

You said this:

Most people are idiots.

lol. A Fascist and a radical Muslim working together.

>Implying your ideologies could ever co-exist.

No he wasn't, he was merely the first to actualize it.

He formed the first fascist party, and his party were the first to call themselves fascists.

>muh government is responsible for all the evil in the world

So you're saying the fed dindu nuffin? Hah, they lowered interest rates that then created a bubble, which popped in 2008 which wrecked the economy.

You are a materialist, you have no sympathy for others and see shekels as the only benefit to helping those with financial hardship. Anarcho-capitalists are sociopathic Jews.

lol more ad hominem.

Boohoo, your communism can't work because there's no motivation to loan for free, now you have to resort to fallacies and calling me names because you can't beat my argument.

Smedley, anarchism is not the solution.

But a government that kills millions on the regular for them being non-Muslim is? Hah

Anarchism = Chaos

Anarchism: No rulers
Chaos: Void

lol. A Fascist and a radical Muslim working together.

>Implying your ideologies could ever co-exist.

http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=KYV7KWQ-fY4

That only supports my point.

This doesn't support your point, this shows that he made up fascism. And therefore he is the person who can most accurately describe fascist economic theory, which is opposed to the free market.

usury

The banning of interest is what happens when you put economic illiterates together to write a holy book.

Its factual, most intellectuals who are anarchists are jews.

Lew Rockwell and Leo Tolstoy don't exist?

communism is materialism

Lol, well you're a materialist then.

materialism and sociopathy

Materialists and sociopaths loan for free? Huh, squiggles must be both then.

lacking rulers creates a power void

lol try filling it when the militaries have been dismantled, there's private security, and the only thing capable of funding an army is a state, of which there would be none.

No it shows he was the first to actualize it.

There might have been others with similar ideas, like the national socialists, but he was the first fascist and the one that came up with it.

2 examples

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christian_anarchism
projecting

Ad hominem

You're deluding yourself if you think any of these conditions will ever materialize and persist.

>can't argue with those positions
>just says it'll never happen so arguing is pointless

I think this arguments over now. Squiggles is probably asleep, while Karl is using one word as an argument and crying when I don't argue against a single word, and stating that the first man to theorize and actualize fascism can't define all of it.

Conclusion: Fascism is antithetical to the free market, and Karl is an economic illiterate.

''but he was the first fascist and the one that came up with it.''

false

Italian Fascism (Italian: Fascismo Italiano), also known simply as Fascism (Italian: Fascismo), is the original fascist ideology, as developed in Italy. The ideology is associated with the National Fascist Party, which under Benito Mussolini ruled the Kingdom of Italy from 1922 until 1943, the Republican Fascist Party that ruled the Italian Social Republic from 1943 to 1945, the post-war Italian Social Movement and subsequent Italian neo-fascist movements.

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Preussentum und Sozialismus was written after Mussolini formed his party and called himself a fascist, kek.

He presented his "fascist" works after Mussolini. So nice work being objectively wrong.

Edited 8/7/2016 07:18:27

Mussolini made the fasci party in 1914, rekt