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Strat 1v1: 8/4/2016 11:03:14


szeweningen 
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My advice is, care more about how to play better, not how to get a better rating. There have already been dozens of threads with people concerned with their ratings, only very few where people are concerned with how they play.
Strat 1v1: 8/4/2016 11:18:50

Omniscient 
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As far as I'm concerned, "getting a better rating" is about "not losing". I suppose the matchmaking flaws making obtaining a high rating more complicated than "Just Win every game" though. If rating was truly end all be all, I could have 2370 rating right now (just stall the 3 games I already lost and that is what 2111 becomes, 3 losses is less than 5, so it's literally that easy). Removing errors from my play is definitely my actual goal, especially at picks.

Also unlike some others, I am not afraid of mathematical approaches to winning.
Strat 1v1: 8/4/2016 11:46:56


Beren • apex 
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+1 sze
Strat 1v1: 8/4/2016 13:33:32


Ayra
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sze said it all
Strat 1v1: 8/5/2016 01:20:29


TeamGuns 
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I disagree. Not everything and everyone can be at the same level even if they "try hard enough".

Play chess all your life and everytime of the day, you're not guaranteed to become #1 or even #1000 for what matters. Lots of it has to do with things we can't change such as genetics.

I believe three big factors come in when you are willing to become a pro in any category:

1) Training and effort
2) Ability to learn and adapt
3) Mental preparation and consistency

Play all you want, but with a bad ability to learn complex moves and to adapt to situations, and it'd be useless to progress to a point you can win high level games.

Be emotionally unstable and you can be very smart, and try very hard but you will never reach the top either.

Be smart and emotionally preparated but never train or put effort and you won't be #1 either.


You can ofc learn some of these and become good at the game, but if you don't master each, you can't consistently beat the best and eventually become one.
Strat 1v1: 8/5/2016 01:33:02

Omniscient 
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My problem isn't lack of confidence. Games where I feel I am the underdog and need to try hard to win, I do fine in.

It's the games I expect to win and halfass. Those bite me in the ass way too often.

EDIT: Not sure why he changed his post, he suggested putting a sticker on your computer screen where opponents names show so you play vs. all people the same and not feel intimidated by good opponents.

Edited 8/5/2016 01:39:15
Strat 1v1: 8/6/2016 21:10:37

player12345
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+1 great posts here on how to improve.

Based on ladder and forum activity, it's clear many of us have a strong desire to achieve a high ladder rank. The question of "how" is addressed frequently.

*Why* do some of us have such a strong drive to achieve high ranks?

Note: "Because I must win, win, win!" doesn't fully satisfy the question; it only signals a person has the condition:)
Strat 1v1: 8/7/2016 00:11:42

player12345
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Paying attention to this question is somewhat of a red pill vs blue pill proposition.

Edited 8/7/2016 00:12:30
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Strat 1v1: 8/7/2016 16:02:37


Norman 
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https://www.warlight.net/MultiPlayer?GameID=11709495

TL;dr from the chat: "Take away all my losses and I'll be the highest ranked player in the history of WarLight."
Strat 1v1: 8/7/2016 20:24:45

player12345
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^ This chat is extremely relevant, thanks.

Such chats are not uncommon. In general they often reveal:
-extreme importance attached to high ladder rating/ranking
-anger, sensitivity, combativeness over a loss
-attempts to belittle the opponent (e.g. "you noob")
-extreme defensiveness when belittled

Edited 8/8/2016 18:07:21
Strat 1v1: 8/7/2016 20:36:42

player12345
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Again the question: why do we see a strong drive in some to achieve high ranks and engage in competitive social behavior?

It seems that this behavior is innate, genetic.
Strat 1v1: 8/7/2016 22:19:12


szeweningen 
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Omniscient, I have only 2 things I can advice to you:

1) Again, I want to stress the importance of looking only at the moves, that mindset will allow you to search for your mistakes and improve. Going a little bit through your recent ladder games I can see quite a few things you could improve on even without detailed analysis.
2) Play only against good players in practise. No auto-games, no weak/mediocre players. When I was playing warlight, at some point I started to play literally only with best available players. That will automatically force you to be precise even in casual games and your autopilot mode will become much "cleaner", so games where you make outrageous blunders will disappear eventually. Just hanging out with the right crowd can work wonders.
Strat 1v1: 8/8/2016 05:07:25

player12345
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sze: you've achieved status as one of the all-time Warlight greats.

What motivated you to spend near countless hours competing, improving, climbing the ladders?

(BTW, I appreciate the fact that you're giving back to the community via the forums.)

Edited 8/8/2016 05:09:00
Strat 1v1: 8/8/2016 11:31:44

Pulsey
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testosterone.
Strat 1v1: 8/8/2016 14:26:20


ps 
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not sure if troll or not. O_o

why do mountain climbers climb mountains?
Strat 1v1: 8/8/2016 16:30:45


szeweningen 
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It tickled my brain
Strat 1v1: 8/8/2016 17:52:36

player12345
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In casual mountain climbing, there is no series of competitions where one person wins and the other loses. There is no resulting rank hierarchy where it is generally agreed the people at the top are highly likely to win against people at the bottom.

There are surely many motivators for ladder that vary from person to person. However, it seems that competitive social instincts--probably involving testosterone--are involved.
Strat 1v1: 8/8/2016 23:27:48


ps 
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the testosterone remark is a bit rude towards the ladies playing the ladders.

to answer the question directly:

it's just competitive nature wanting to see how good you can get at something you enjoy doing.

i'm sure a few folks there just play it to get a few more challenging games. doubt they'll ever reach top 10.

or in the case of pulsey he just plays for the lulz of trolling folks trying to get a high rank.

Edited 8/8/2016 23:30:31
Strat 1v1: 8/9/2016 01:05:41

player12345
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it's just competitive nature wanting to see how good you can get at something you enjoy doing.

Yes, and a hierarchy of other players is involved. It's social competition.

the testosterone remark is a bit rude towards the ladies playing the ladders.

Both men and women produce testosterone (but the effects vary between them). Both men and women engage in competitive social behavior.

Edited 8/9/2016 01:06:43
Strat 1v1: 8/9/2016 03:59:08

Jammyb'stard
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I don't play on the ladder. I personally find playing the same template over and over again boring.

When i did though, i played it for fun. I play Warlight for fun.

I quite honestly don't wish to get better, certainly not studying the game to try to.

I do play chess, i'm fairly decent at it but know i will never be a GrandMaster, yet i play it because i enjoy it.

What I'm saying is that not everyone has this thing inside them that says they must win at all costs.
It's a game, play and enjoy!!
Strat 1v1: 8/9/2016 04:38:07

Nauzhror 
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Wanting to improve is not "wanting to win at all costs". The only player on Warlight I can think of with that attitude is Gnuffone.
Strat 1v1: 8/9/2016 06:04:26

Pulsey
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why do mountain climbers climb mountains?


Why does ps post such bs?
Strat 1v1: 8/9/2016 15:47:00


ps 
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Strat 1v1: 8/20/2016 13:34:40


Benjamin628 
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I think part of the problem is that this discussion becomes irrelevant, but people keep bringing it back. After the first page it was pretty much just garbage.
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Strat 1v1: 8/28/2016 02:01:31


warhawk
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What is "MD" and "RT" please.
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