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Clan League 8 Group D - Retirement: 7/28/2016 17:58:58


Onoma94
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I am just curious who in this specific case would play replacement games.
Clan League 8 Group D - Retirement: 7/28/2016 17:59:45


Ox
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Wunderwaffe!
Clan League 8 Group D - Retirement: 7/28/2016 18:02:53


l4v.r0v 
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Like is common practice in other strategic leagues, we will focus on hacking the Warlight servers to turn all games into Semice wins (regardless of the players).

This is currently not explicitly against any of the rules of Clan League and clearly allowed under Rule 6. We believe we're acting in good faith and will be honest and cooperative when investigated.

Edited 7/28/2016 18:03:21
Clan League 8 Group D - Retirement: 7/28/2016 18:18:04


(ง︡'-'︠)ง let's fight!! 
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Meant the just past one.
https://www.warlight.net/MultiPlayer?GameID=11655663


Yes, actually it is right to be at the safe side.
Clan League 8 Group D - Retirement: 7/28/2016 18:23:17


l4v.r0v 
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Just to be clear, that game was already past the pick stage by the time this Rule 6 declaration was made. It is not among the 0 games affected.
Clan League 8 Group D - Retirement: 7/28/2016 18:28:21

[wolf]japan77
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I'm kind of curious to see how CL gov reacts to this.
Clan League 8 Group D - Retirement: 7/28/2016 18:31:57


l4v.r0v 
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I think we'd have to wait for that. It takes a lot of time to investigate 0 games. Now, if someone had prepared a 10 page document for them with all important evidence, maybe they'd be able to swiftly enact their rules.

But realistically, given zero evidence, I expect to get a weasel ruling out of this one- and probably the 4th mid-season rule change so far. Ah well. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

Edited 7/28/2016 18:32:20
Clan League 8 Group D - Retirement: 7/28/2016 18:48:00

Cicero XXII
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Am I the only one who can't see the list of games affected? Or is this some sort of joke/troll move that's going over my head
Clan League 8 Group D - Retirement: 7/28/2016 18:49:10


l4v.r0v 
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I clearly listed them. Not sure why you're having trouble.

What browser are you on?
Clan League 8 Group D - Retirement: 7/28/2016 18:51:35

Cicero XXII
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Firefox
Clan League 8 Group D - Retirement: 7/28/2016 19:02:16


l4v.r0v 
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Odd. Works on Firefox for me. What operating system?
Clan League 8 Group D - Retirement: 7/28/2016 19:17:18


TeamGuns
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Well i do see that the reporting date matters in the games to be redone.

I think that if a player is deemed to be retired, all the games he was booted in because he retired should be redone.

The lack of Wolves to report it in time, should not effect the other teams.

The way the rules are it seems that not only Wolves will be punished but even the clans that are going to have a rematch.

I think it is only fair that it is established which games he was booted from when he retired and do a rematch of those.

The date of reporting is only relevant to accept the excuse of retirement.

Once the administration accepts it, it should have no value on the games that will be a rematch.

The way it is now some clans will have free points for games they have not played while other will have a rematch.

I do not care what other before you have decided about this issue, it is unfair that the negligence of Wolves should result in having other clans be punished too.

The question is:

Are you going to be dogmatic and think that the ones before you created a perfect system or are you going to fix the the issues they missed to the best of your ability?
Clan League 8 Group D - Retirement: 7/28/2016 19:19:08


Gazpacho
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why don't you all just play the damn game...
Clan League 8 Group D - Retirement: 7/28/2016 19:20:49


GeneralPE
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+1 anonym
Clan League 8 Group D - Retirement: 7/28/2016 19:22:50


l4v.r0v 
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TeamGuns, I disagree. I think we absolutely deserve a remake for the 0 games that were not yet past the picking stage at the time I declared Semicedevine retired. There's no call for deviation from precedent here.
Clan League 8 Group D - Retirement: 7/28/2016 19:36:08


(ง︡'-'︠)ง let's fight!! 
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Okay I take the responsibility for 0 games to be repeated. I will create 0 games. And I hope TLW will win 0 of this. Olympus shall not lose 0 games. When this 0 games start i will do for this 0 games an extra analysis to show how much impact these 0 games would have had on TLWs final score. I wish you much fun in playing 0 games...

G0t it? :)

Edited 7/28/2016 19:38:55
Clan League 8 Group D - Retirement: 7/28/2016 19:44:12


l4v.r0v 
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Thank you. I hope Clan League management comes to the same conclusion.
Clan League 8 Group D - Retirement: 7/28/2016 19:48:33


(ง︡'-'︠)ง let's fight!! 
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Okay I have created all 0 games. Make sure all players are joining!
Clan League 8 Group D - Retirement: 7/28/2016 19:49:42


(ง︡'-'︠)ง let's fight!! 
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btw here is the link:






:D
Clan League 8 Group D - Retirement: 7/28/2016 19:58:59


TeamGuns
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This is a negligence problem, Wolves negligence since Semicedive's negligence reflects Wolves.

The announcement is late.
It is not the reason why it is responsible.
It is responsible because Wolves as a clan is responsible for semicedevine actions.(in this case negligence)

The retirement should have been announced to the administration before clan league started.

(I am assuming semicedevine is the guilty part here even though I have not heard his side of the story, so I might be making a wrong assumption)

Did semicedevine join can league representing Wolves?
Yes, so it is Woles negligence if he failed at informing the administration of his retirement before the league started.

Failure to take proper care over something.
Yes and it fits exactly what Wolves did, it failed at informing administration of semicedevine retirement before the league actually started.
Semicedevine committed picks for those games before retiring so he is guilty of negligence= Wolves is guilty of negligence.

It has nothing to do with you or anybody else in Wolves unless he warned you before clan league started that he will be retiring. Even though he should have warned the administration too before he accepted the position.

Retiring in the middle of a league is unexceptionable in my books.

Why are you still insisting that I am accusing you of something?

You are not Wolves, you represent it, just like Semicedevine represented it.

If a player in TJC is a total noob, TJC has a member which is a total noob, it does not mean that the entire clan is a noob or that it's leader must be a noob or must be balmed for having a noob.
TJC is just responsible for the credit of having a noob in the clan and probably they will try to fix that by helping out the noob to get better.

I cannot understand why you wish to have all the BLAME of all the actions done in Wolves by its members.
You are just a member that will try to solve the issues Wolves has responsibility of, nothing more.
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