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National ID cards: 5/25/2016 21:12:12

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how does it feel to be for forced birth and not caring about a woman's choice to how she deals with her own body

and you use the government too

how libertarian of u
National ID cards: 5/25/2016 21:13:47


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Correction:

It's not her body. If it was, she would be the one dying.


The government doesn't have anything to do with abortion except funding it.
National ID cards: 5/25/2016 21:15:19

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i can put a tattoo in my body and remove it

there is a clump of cells inside her body and its her decision to remove it or not

thats freedom

ur for forcing women to give birth of children they dont want

ur infringing upon women to make these choices

and now ur saying that she doesnt own her body

how libertarian of u

Edited 5/25/2016 21:16:04
National ID cards: 5/25/2016 21:23:01


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Your comparing the living cells of a human being to a tattoo?


How liberal of you LMFAO


The majority of women who get Abortions CHOOSE TO HAVE SEX. Nobody forced them. Even if they didn't want a child and wanted sex, they could have gotten birth control. She decided not too, this Is what happens and they knew what could happen. So, considering all of this, why should an unborn child be punished for the sins of the mother. That being has just as many rights as the mother. This is where you show your ignorance of libertarianism and freedom. That " Clump of cells " as you so lovingly put it has the same rights as the mother.
National ID cards: 5/25/2016 21:24:34


Жұқтыру
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You're arguing against a w-a-c-o.
National ID cards: 5/25/2016 21:25:55


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True
National ID cards: 5/25/2016 21:32:41

e_e
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so lets punish a woman for having sex and making a mistake by forcing her to have a child that she doesnt want

how brilliant of u!!

u value a clump of cells more then a living breathing ACTUAL human

you dont care about freedom if you are going to force a woman to give birth to a child. its her body it her choice

how LIBERTARIAN of u
National ID cards: 5/25/2016 21:41:09


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" An Actual Human "

Most scientists disagree with you, that clump of living cells is alive and it's transitioning into the physical form of human. Because it's DNA is already formed, it's technically a developing human. Keep going, your stupidity on science fascinates me greatly since your basing everything on whether it has an arm LOL.



Part of making mistakes is learning from them. Escaping the consequences by ruining the life of an innocent human is justice by sacrificing the freedom of another. That's not true justice. That's the highest of hypocrisy.
National ID cards: 5/25/2016 21:47:01


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But keep going with the atrocity you so lavish label " Grammar ". It's fun, crushing your arguments one by one, I quite enjoy it. It's fun sharpening debate skills with lesser foes. At least Smedly gives me plausible arguments, your just spitting out stero typical liberal banter. Go do some reading for fresh material from Left Wing Nation, I'm sure you'll find those new arguments satisfactorily since you certainly can't figure these things out yourself
National ID cards: 5/25/2016 21:54:24

e_e
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what a true libertarian

forcing women to give birth for a clump of cells

so what if its living

a person doesnt develop self awareness until age 3. thats science

u wanna force a person who has hopes, dreams, feelings, personality to go through the pain of pregnancy and potentially birth complications and ultimately raise a child that it doesnt want because u care about some fetus that doesnt have any capacity to feel pain or even think

u care more about some cells over a actual woman. shows how much u care about actual ppl

what a true libertarian

its a good thing that conservatives are a dying breed

Edited 5/25/2016 21:55:19
National ID cards: 5/25/2016 21:56:38


Huitzilopochtli 
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butt we T R U M P clan !!
National ID cards: 5/25/2016 22:12:09


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It's a good thing people with your IQ level are slowly disappearing, thanks to more people going to college.



So let me get this straight?

Your saying it doesn't matter if it is alive? It only matters if it can think and say daddy? What type of sick psychological disturbed troll are you? You literally just said you don't give a fuck about its freedoms, it's future, it's very existence in fact. Your saying it has as much value as the massive shit you took last night because the Mother has a higher IQ? Your not only a morally impaired bastard, your a sick freak.


That's not even liberal. That's not even communist or Marxist.

Y o u a r e s i c k

Edited 5/25/2016 22:13:15
National ID cards: 5/25/2016 22:14:48


Жұқтыру
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Your saying it doesn't matter if it is alive?


It's very hypocritic to be against abortion and not be for vegetarianism. I respect folk who are vegetarian and against abortion, I still disagree, but it makes far more sense than being against abortion and being a meateater.
National ID cards: 5/25/2016 22:15:54


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I respect vegetarians also, who said otherwise. In fact, I'm seriously considering becoming one.
National ID cards: 5/25/2016 22:17:59


Major General Smedley Butler
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College doesn't make folk smarter, it's not like going to the NBA makes you taller.
National ID cards: 5/25/2016 22:20:48


Lubbock
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+1.

College doesn't make one smarter, playing Basketball doesnt make you taller, listening to rap doesn't make you black.


Also, I don't support the idea of a national ID card. Just stop. We don't need all these security measures- if the government really cared about safety, they'd create a national database for people with mental issues.

If we had that, that by itself would greatly help stop gun violence via people with mental issues.

Edited 5/25/2016 22:23:16
National ID cards: 5/25/2016 22:20:57


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^ Eh, I'll concede that one

Edited 5/25/2016 22:21:23
National ID cards: 5/25/2016 22:23:21


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@e_e,

by your logic, torturing animals should be ok, because the human doing it is intelligent and the animal isn't

Also, killing young babies should be ok, too, by that logic.

Your type of people are the kind that support euthenasia.


Just... go fuck yourself

Edited 5/25/2016 22:23:55
National ID cards: 5/25/2016 22:25:07


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^ Who's alt are you?


And finally, someone who values human rights
National ID cards: 5/25/2016 22:26:02

e_e
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i dont particularly care about animals

and no about the young babies

and ya euthenasia is good.

u could make a argument about late term abortions as the child is developing and can feel pain

but ya i dnt care about a clump of cells. i care about the actual human being

i dnt wanna force women to have children they dont want
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