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Socialists and statists who support gun "control".: 4/23/2016 13:09:58


Angry Koala
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No, it "encompasses" the west half of the world, so the Americas + a little of Europe and Africa. It's a geographic word, doesn't matter what Chinese folk, it's objectively not most of Europe that is in the west.


"Westerner" isn't necessarily a geographic term, it can refer to a cultural trait shared by many nations and people, as I showed you earlier with the definition I provided:
"It contrasted Europe with the linked cultures and civilizations of the Middle East and North Africa, South Asia, Southeast Asia and the remote Far East, which early-modern Europeans saw as the East. Today this has little geographic relevance since the concept of the West has been expanded to include the former European colonies in the Americas, Russian Northern Asia, Australia, and New Zealand". Some others consider "Westerners" as people culturally having in common a "Judeo-christian" or Classical Latin-Greek heritage (actually it is a notion very popular among western european intellectuals).

To conclude, we can say that "Westerner" is actually a very polysemous term and we can say your views on this notion and mine and others' are all valid.
Socialists and statists who support gun "control".: 4/23/2016 13:45:50


Major General Smedley Butler
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Juq and Panda's law: No matter what, the argument will boil down to the definition of a word or term.
Socialists and statists who support gun "control".: 4/23/2016 16:06:13


Жұқтыру
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it's the duty of folks to communicate their thoughts in whichever way is the most clear to the people they're communicating with.


No, it isn't, otherwise we'd all be speaking Ido a long time ago, or you'd be learning Kazakh. Just to communicate when talking is the goal, but it's the duty of folk to wield the right words, to make their tongue sensible and not just, wrong or hypocritic, something or that.

"Westerner" isn't necessarily a geographic term, it can refer to a cultural trait shared by many nations and people, as I showed you earlier with the definition I provided:


It's exclusively a geographic word. It can refer to cultures of the geographically west: America, Brazil, Britain, so on. What you (and your quote) tell me, though, is that I can say "north" but really mean a specific group of countries: most are actually south, not north. That's ridiculous, just call it whatever the organisation is. OECD, NATO.

It's a term that is unfamiliar to most people, and as I've already demonstrated, googling it won't help you out very much.


You demonstrated with your look that it does help, but it's just self-explanatory, furthermore: capitalist + world.

Edited 4/23/2016 16:07:09
Socialists and statists who support gun "control".: 4/23/2016 17:03:29


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No, it isn't, otherwise we'd all be speaking Ido a long time ago, or you'd be learning Kazakh.


Warlight is a website that is based in the US, and is mostly comprised of native english speakers such as myself, or foreigners who know english, such as yourself. English is a very widely known language with around 700 million speakers, something that can't be said for Ido or kazakh, which only have 2 thousand and 11 million speakers respectively.

If you know that the language most likely to be understood by the person you're talking to is english since practically everyone on the website uses english, then it is no foul to use english. And indeed, you seem to understand english perfectly well.

You demonstrated with your look that it does help, but it's just self-explanatory, furthermore: capitalist + world.


Simply googling the phrase "Capitalist world" doesn't turn up any sort of definition of the phrase such as "The western world" does. And if for example you live in a communist country, or you're just not very familiar with history, it may not be intuitive what "Capitalist world" means.

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Socialists and statists who support gun "control".: 4/23/2016 19:39:03


Angry Koala
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It's exclusively a geographic word.


Juq and his stubbornness, I will sound quite Juqish here I guess: curb your arrogance would you. This term isn't exclusively a geographic word, the thing is I provided at least a source to support my argument, whereas you got none excepted your own opinion, quite futile imho.
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