But I can't overthrow a tyrant with a f*cking shotgun now, can I?
Vote or peacefully protest.


When government takes away the rights of the people, they (the people) must rise up before it is too late. I personally believe a rebellion/coup d'etat would be good for America right now. We need to clean house and start over. I don't mean you personally, of course, but if you were my leader, and denied me my rights, I would need to do something.
We have elections for a reason. Also, when a bunch of states tried to rebel, lots of people died. Please refrain from doing that. "Good" to know the threat isn't personal.

It's more of an FFA where everyone is shuffling out quietly while the candidates fight to the death.

Vote or peacefully protest.

Didn't do shit for the colonials. If people didn't rebel, we wouldn't have the right to vote of protest.

We have elections for a reason.

You are correct. We have them because some people rebelled and earned themselves that right. When governments become tyrannical, as is natural, rebellion is the only avenue we can recourse to. Or would you rather be in the British Empire still?

Didn't do shit for the colonials. If people didn't rebel, we wouldn't have the right to vote of protest.
That doesn't mean violently preotest and revolt every time something is "bad."

You are correct. We have them because some people rebelled and earned themselves that right. When governments become tyrannical, as is natural, rebellion is the only avenue we can recourse to. Or would you rather be in the British Empire still?
I think you're missing what I am trying to say. A better question is: "What is the purpose of elections?"

A better question is: "What is the purpose of elections?"

You know, third parties are not even allowed to be on the ballot. The American Communist Group hasn't been on the ballot since 1945. With gerrymandering and just forward, easy vote rigging, speech freedom getting lower and lower, what good are elections, you tell me.

And y'know, Britian did have elections, and there were repesentors from America...come to think of it, those elections were actually kind of fair (not equally represented, but demography wasn't a science back then).

Anyhow, I'm not for the "unknown loon can buy a gun without any trouble", but I'm definitely not taking the "liberal" stance on this, either. The same problems with guns are there with drugs, it's mildly hypocrtic to want to ban some guns, that just makes a black gun market and more folk buying it.

methinks falconguy needs a suspension, he's already on my blackkk lLlist

methinks falconguy needs a suspension, he's already on my blackkk lLlist
Why?

OxTheArtist, Angry Frog, [wolf]japan77

We need you to vote on leader.

I join Green group, just don't ask me about economy and we'll be fine. Also, I run for leader. Ok, so let's work on that party platform.

*America should stop supporting all Middle Eastern and other governments, and possibly put sanctions on some.
*Everyone earns the right to a fair hearing in crime.
*Lower military spending by 100%.
*Stop fighting every country America is at war with now, and fight indisputably defensive wars.
*End the NSA, FBI, and CIA, and like agencies spying upon their denizens.
*Uncap immigration, end the concept of work visas (everyone can work), and open national borders to all. End the concept of illegal immigrant - all immigrants are legal. Turn denizenship to mostly a nominal thing.
*No torture, ever.
*The government is not allowed to take private stuff "for the greater good" without permission from all involved.
*For-choice (at least, in case of vital hazard to mother or child, mother is a loon, rape, deformed child, or the child will not be able to be economically taken care of).
*Mandate GMOs to be labelled as such.
*Install progressive income tax, where everyone is taxed at one rate, and end any tax-evasion loopholes, aside from moving headquarters.
*Legalise all drugs, free all those in gaol for drug offences, and tax it.
*Put foreign help spending as much as military spending.
*Install an one-payer basic healthcare system, but allowing paying for better treatment/medicines.
*Crack down on internet and medicine sellers. Internet is practically a monopoly, while medicine should definitely not be dealed with as a normal thing to buy. Perhaps illegalise all advertisements for medicine.
*Mandate vaccination for stoppable and contagious illnesses for all children.
*Put some checks in stead for buying guns, though not many. Tax guns.

Edited 4/15/2016 02:48:44

You joined the national socialists? Well, darn you. Might as well join the red party at this point. Have fun making Pakistani kids feel the bern via drone strikes.

*Stop fighting every country America is at war with now, and fight only indisputably defensive wars.

Socialism , welfare and mandatory indoctrination compliment the warring state. This gives much more money to the state while making folk like their government more (unless they're conscious of the extortition and imprisonment going on). Bombings will continue , and invasions will go on.

Economy isn't as important, I'll leave that up to some economic ministers who know that better than I do. But most importantly, to stop the evils that are bloodspills and nationalism (by the way, Libertarians are headed by a nationalist).

Edited 4/15/2016 03:22:11

Except giving the government more power will just ensure more bloodshed and nationalism. These folk want to make higher education free, and will probably move onto making it compulsory and government done after that. They support big militaries (Falcon) and Anti-freedom organizations like the FBI (Chuck Norris). Combine that with them wanting complete control of the economy via corporatism and socialism, and you have a perfect storm of invasions and bombings.

It would depend on the situation - but the same problems are with capitalism: your successor won't be as kind as you.

Well, who says we should have a successor? Deconstructing the state ought to put a end to this non-sense. Also, there's a difference between harming a tyrants abilities before he comes into power and amplifying his abilities before he comes into power.

I write-in Team Guns.

this has fallen apart so i leave the socialist party

Critique:
*Why all of them? Why abandon Israel?
*Clarification needed (Already a constitutional right).
*Seems like a massive extreme.
*Sure.
*I agree with NSA, but why FBI and CIA?
*Open borders to Canada but not Mexico (yet). Once Mexico's drug issue is solved (once they legalize drugs), then I would be for opening all borders.
*Yes.
*Sure.
*sure.
*Sure. Just make sure that labeling won't give off the false idea that the GMOs are bad.
*Get rid of all loopholes. Period.
*Yes.
*Should be lowered, but quite extreme.
*Yes.
*Sure.
*Yes.
*Yes.

*America should stop supporting all Middle Eastern and other governments, and possibly put sanctions on some.

*Why all of them? Why abandon Israel?

Israel is a theocratic militarist country (surrounded by the like), who has been doing uncurbed warfare upon the Palestine (who also were not little cherubs; don't support them, either).

*Everyone earns the right to a fair hearing in crime.

*Clarification needed (Already a constitutional right).

As it stands now, not everyone gets these constitutional rights - for example, anyone that the government "suspects" is a terrorist.

*Lower military spending by 100%.

*Seems like a massive extreme.

It's been "massively extremely" overfunded for years. They don't need any more funds for a long while. If their money starts getting low, sell a few tanks to Britain.

*End the NSA, FBI, and CIA, and like agencies spying upon their denizens.

*I agree with NSA, but why FBI and CIA?

They're all the same - to the point where I don't really know why they bother to have different agencies. I guess the CIA is a more gendarmy organisation, but that's the only difference I can think of - all they deploy fighter units in foreign and home lands, all they spy on foreign folk, all they spy on home folk.

*Uncap immigration, end the concept of work visas (everyone can work), and open national borders to all. End the concept of illegal immigrant - all immigrants are legal. Turn denizenship to mostly a nominal thing.

*Open borders to Canada but not Mexico (yet). Once Mexico's drug issue is solved (once they legalize drugs), then I would be for opening all borders.

I don't see what Mexico's drug laws have to do with it. It'd be helping Mexico out, for sure, if drug dealers could just go to America and legally sell drugs, and settle disputes in the legal system, not in the gunfire system. By the way, the borders to Canada are closed? I don't know why America would do that, be afraid of richer, more taught (I think Canada has one of the highest proportions of its population who are university-taught), mostly English folk? I think it's Canada who is in charge of the border there, not America.

*Mandate GMOs to be labelled as such.

*Sure. Just make sure that labeling won't give off the false idea that the GMOs are bad.

It's foolish to say GMOs are a safe gift from God, as it is to say that they are Satan's spew. There are good things that GMOs do that conventional food can't, but there are also bad things there that conventional food doesn't have.

However, in my opinion, just mandating that it would be decently-visibly seen, some label like "Note: This food comes from a genetically modified organism (GMO). Eat at your own risk.".

*Install progressive income tax, where everyone is taxed at one rate, and end any tax-evasion loopholes, aside from moving headquarters.

*Get rid of all loopholes. Period.

Yeah, I agree, rid all loopholes, but that takes some legal effort. What I mean to say, though, is to concentrate on tax-evasion loopholes.

*Put foreign help spending as much as military spending.

*Should be lowered, but quite extreme.

I don't get what you're saying. I am for putting both at 0%.