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The Argument Against Abortion: 2/13/2016 02:56:03


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reeling from social anxiety/criticism of their lifestyle choices


As if making something legal make it so that people don't recieve criticism from their lifestyle choices.

Do you really think that women that had an abortion don't face criticism? please this is ridiculous, there wasplenty of criticism of them in this thread alone, and some came from you even. The classic "you shouldn't engage in behaviour that can make you pregnant" (aka its your "fault"), is a blattant example of it.

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The Argument Against Abortion: 2/13/2016 03:05:38


[AOE] JaiBharat909
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This was my actual quote: "Also if she knew that being pregnant might ruin her career why did she engage in behavior that got her pregnant (assuming it was not due to rape or incest)?"

What you put in quotes (you shouldn't engage in behaviour that can make you pregnant) was not what I said.

My only point was that women, if they are worried about the effects of pregnancy on their materialistic lifestyle, should use contraception (which although not 100% effective, is pretty damn close to being full proof). At some point we have to be responsible for our actions.

As if making something legal make it so that people don't recieve criticism from their lifestyle choices.

That's not my point. What I am saying is that abortion (compared to gay marriage, which you brought up) is a far more accepted cultural norm by society than gay marriage. In fact, most conservatives (as I mentioned before) allow abortion in 3 exceptions - rape, incest, and life - so the idea that there is overwhelming society-wide opposition to abortion that is causing suicide and depression is a big stretch (and also not quantifiable!!).
The Argument Against Abortion: 2/13/2016 03:15:52


[AOE] JaiBharat909
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Also being against abortion is not the same as desiring to put everyone who gets an abortion into prison.

I agree. I don't want them to be in jail. I agree with you on drug incarceration too, but that's a separate issue really.

I think its impossible to overturn Roe v. Wade. What I think is needed is greater regulation of abortion procedures, higher standards for when an abortion is legally allowed (it shouldn't be the first option), and greater funding for adoption systems.
The Argument Against Abortion: 2/13/2016 03:21:58

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@Jai, re: abortion being an accepted 'cultural norm', I just want to remind you of the reality in some parts of the US (this from only a few months ago): https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Colorado_Springs_Planned_Parenthood_shooting
The Argument Against Abortion: 2/13/2016 03:26:49


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Or maybe (wild guess) could it be the case that society forcing them to be locked in a closet has something to do with it?


LOL.

Today being gay is pretty much a perk. You literally cannot do anything to a gay person without being demonized.
The Argument Against Abortion: 2/13/2016 03:29:10


[AOE] JaiBharat909
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I remember sadly. Real tragedy.

Considering how controversial abortion was I am least thankful this type of blatant violence was not widespread in the years following Roe v. Wade. That being said its isolated. You won't find many Robert Lewis Dears, just as you won't find many people who say we should legalize abortion in the third and final trimester or that partial birth abortions should be allowed. There are extremists on both sides of the aisle, like on any issue.
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