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An atheist at Christmas Eve Mass: 1/2/2016 16:52:51


[AOE] JaiBharat909
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LOL I love being talked about :)

I was only pointing out the fact that the African Community (and to a greater degree Obama himself) has co-opted his inclusion into African-American culture. This does a disservice to his actual upbringing and ethnic/racial descent. Democrats trick themselves into thinking that electing Barack Obama is an amazing milestone in US history. The US electing a non-christian president would be a greater achievement.

You think I'm going through leaps and bounds trying to justify myself, but you have done the same thing from where I and everyone else is sitting.

+1 Darth

WCT is as desperate to gain validity for his thoughts as anyone else. Which explains his obsession with forum wars. At some point the tone and diction of his argumentation sounds like sheer vanity bordering on pretentiousness. Anyway he's Canadian...so no importance to America.

Edited 1/2/2016 17:06:10
An atheist at Christmas Eve Mass: 1/2/2016 20:18:35

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I was only pointing out the fact that the African Community (and to a greater degree Obama himself) has co-opted his inclusion into African-American culture. This does a disservice to his actual upbringing and ethnic/racial descent.

Why do you *care* so much about his 'racial descent'? You must be a racist! ;-P
WCT is...blahblahblah

Ad hom troll bait. Jai reduced to trolling. Check. And mate.

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An atheist at Christmas Eve Mass: 1/2/2016 20:37:51


[AOE] JaiBharat909
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If I may quote the great Lionel Messi: "There are more important things in life than winning or losing". Hope life teaches you this lesson in due time WCT. Until then enjoy playing chess. Also may I suggest a self-help book in social interactions?
An atheist at Christmas Eve Mass: 1/2/2016 20:44:42

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May I suggest a self-help book on trolling? Just can't admit you were wrong, can you?

To quote Monty Python again: "Run away! Run away!"
An atheist at Christmas Eve Mass: 1/2/2016 21:13:02


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Vade retro Satanas!
An atheist at Christmas Eve Mass: 1/2/2016 22:29:13


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@Jai
What is important isn't the skin color of the people in charge of the party, what matters is their policies. All i'm saying is if your party leaders call mexicans rapists and wants to ban all muslims from entering the USA, this is a narrative that is going to attact a lot of racist and bigots. And idiots.
Just think about this fact: 41% of Trump supporters are in favor of bombing Agrabah (i'll let you google where Agrabah is)

It doesn't matter what is the color of your skin, or ethnicity, you can be a racist and/or bigot either way. See pastor Manning for example. It is true though, that the more diverse a group is, the less likely it is to be racist, but this isn't at all a decisive factor.


source:
Pastor Manning
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t0stJkUWUyM

http://www.publicpolicypolling.com/main/2015/12/trump-leads-grows-nationally-41-of-his-voters-want-to-bomb-country-from-aladdin-clinton-maintains-bi.html
An atheist at Christmas Eve Mass: 1/2/2016 22:36:23


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^My only thing against what you said is that Donald Trump was talking about illegal immigrants from Mexico specifically, not Mexicans in general.
An atheist at Christmas Eve Mass: 1/2/2016 22:48:54


Hitchslap
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BTW, yes, those H. sapiens I'm referring to would resemble us, and us them, to fit in with them very well. They *are* us. I'm not referring to prior species of Homo, but the modern one, i.e. us.


Depends on you definition of "resemble". I doubt the first homo sapiens *looked like* any of the modern humans. That is if we are only talking about the look, which is what Jai seemed to imply, and is another flaw in his argument: He uses the word black to mean the color of the skin in one argument, and to mean "of african decent" in another. That's an Equivocation Fallacy.
An atheist at Christmas Eve Mass: 1/2/2016 22:55:16


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^My only thing against what you said is that Donald Trump was talking about illegal immigrants from Mexico specifically, not Mexicans in general.


That doesn't really improve his case, but sure
An atheist at Christmas Eve Mass: 1/2/2016 23:07:17


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The Agrabah thing is a bit of a mute point, since there's probably non-republicans who said they wouldn't bomb it while thinking that it existed.
An atheist at Christmas Eve Mass: 1/2/2016 23:48:17


[AOE] JaiBharat909
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party leaders

Trump isn't the Party Leader. He's not the head of the RNC and neither does he hold a political office for the Republican Party. In fact almost anybody could say they belong to any party regardless of their ideology or policy positions. Calling Trump the party leader of the republicans is like calling Bernie Sanders a party leader of the Democrats.
An atheist at Christmas Eve Mass: 1/3/2016 00:05:15


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^ Trump is also disliked by the Republican establishment and the actual party leaders. You could at most say he represents a wing of the Republican party (the segment that supports him, largely blue-collar Republicans as per Karl Rove's analysis) but he certainly doesn't lead the party simply by running as a popular candidate within its primary.
An atheist at Christmas Eve Mass: 1/3/2016 00:28:48


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@Jai

When i talked about trump previously, you immediatly went on a rant about the rebublican party when i didn't even talk about the republican party. Anyway, we are playing with words here, it doesn't matter who currently leads the party, Trumps is still "a" leader representing the republican party, and i was specifically talking about him.
An atheist at Christmas Eve Mass: 1/3/2016 00:36:10


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The Agrabah thing is a bit of a mute point, since there's probably non-republicans who said they wouldn't bomb it while thinking that it existed


Of course, my point is that 40% of Trumps voters wants to bomb Agrabah on the basis that it "sounds" muslim. 40%. Not 100%, but still a very big number for such an idiotic proposition. Actually if you read all the results of the polls, 9% of Trumps' voters said they were opposed to bomb Agrabah, wich leaves about 50% who didn't answer, i assume because they didn't know what Agrabah was.
An atheist at Christmas Eve Mass: 1/3/2016 02:53:59


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An atheist at Christmas Eve Mass: 1/3/2016 07:25:43


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just thought i would point out that 44% of Democrats Want To Accept Refugees From the Fictional Country, Agrabah

Strangely Hitchslap didn't mention that.
An atheist at Christmas Eve Mass: 1/3/2016 10:02:12

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Depends on you definition of "resemble". I doubt the first homo sapiens *looked like* any of the modern humans.

The small 'tribe' of H. sapiens, from which we are all descended, and which was native to Africa, was literally the exact same species we are, modern H. sapiens. If you want to get super specific, they and we are classified as Homo sapiens sapiens. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anatomically_modern_human
An atheist at Christmas Eve Mass: 1/3/2016 13:27:49


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The small 'tribe' of H. sapiens, from which we are all descended, and which was native to Africa, was literally the exact same species we are, modern H. sapiens. If you want to get super specific, they and we are classified as Homo sapiens sapiens. [ukkBLt3dAj6X9X9En=https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anatomically_modern_human
]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anatomically_modern_human[/quote][/ukkBLt3dAj6X9X9En]

You're full of sh*t.
An atheist at Christmas Eve Mass: 1/3/2016 13:48:44

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After Jai's done with the book on trolling, you might want to borrow it from him, Darth Darth.
An atheist at Christmas Eve Mass: 1/3/2016 13:58:47


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indibob, yeah people are equally ignorant in both parties. but it appears that one side wants to kill people they have no information on, and the other side wants to help them if they are in danger. so those dems might be naive and willing to take too much risk, but those republicans are murderous. i know which side of that sentiment im on, and im damn proud of it.
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