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A Declining Threat: Saddam Hussein: 12/30/2015 19:09:59


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I disagree. Listen, even the UN ( which I hate ) NATO, and other organizations all had intelligence saying Hussain was trying to make a bomb. UN sent inspectors, Iraq kicked them out, America threatened Iraq, Iraq let them back in then kicked them out again, America with intelligence saying they were making a bomb declared war. Hussain had nuclear scientists, labs, and even scant bomb martials but not a bomb itself. Because of this, liberals decided to ride on Bush's failure to win the election ( even though they had supported it themselves ). Bush wasn't mainly after oil ( in my opinion ) but it wouldn't surprise me if that was a added bonus.
A Declining Threat: Saddam Hussein: 12/31/2015 01:29:01


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If Bush cared about murderous dictators with nuclear weapons he'd have gone after North Korea too.
A Declining Threat: Saddam Hussein: 12/31/2015 01:29:53


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^ +1 Butler
A Declining Threat: Saddam Hussein: 12/31/2015 01:56:47


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North Korea cant be fought with igniting a war with China.

US vs China = nuclear apocalypse.

get it?
A Declining Threat: Saddam Hussein: 12/31/2015 02:16:02


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It's to China's advantage to get rid of North Korea.
A Declining Threat: Saddam Hussein: 12/31/2015 02:17:00


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Of course not. NK acts as a buffer to China and is a pain to the free world ( which China always loves )
A Declining Threat: Saddam Hussein: 12/31/2015 02:18:11


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South Korea is a better trading partner, and North Korea sours relations in East Asia.
A Declining Threat: Saddam Hussein: 12/31/2015 02:19:25


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South Korea is an American ally. China wouldn't want a United Korea under a free government
A Declining Threat: Saddam Hussein: 12/31/2015 02:22:45


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South Korea is good for trade, the US and South Korea can't take China even if they did unite Korea and North Korea is run by a awful government that is a drain on China.
A Declining Threat: Saddam Hussein: 12/31/2015 02:24:55


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I'm Scottish, which, as far as I know, is a country which champions anti-terrorism.


Aye!
A Declining Threat: Saddam Hussein: 12/31/2015 02:25:35


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Nope. China has done nothing but defend NK for its entire life and is also allies with it.
A Declining Threat: Saddam Hussein: 12/31/2015 02:27:49


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Here's a question: Would (even) Bush be stupid enough to invade a country if he knew they had WMDs? They clearly didn't, and he knew he was invading them for the oil. Not even Bush would be stupid enough to invade a country with WMDs.
A Declining Threat: Saddam Hussein: 12/31/2015 02:28:04


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North Korea currently gets food from China for almost free and is a feudalistic monarchy that makes no money. China gets nothing from it. No reason to help it when a much better trading partner invades it and smashes it down.
A Declining Threat: Saddam Hussein: 12/31/2015 02:29:33


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Ox lol don't go on a Bush tirade here man lol us Americans know Bush might never had done shit if Tony Blair hadn't have come in so conveniently to help him in his time of need...

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A Declining Threat: Saddam Hussein: 12/31/2015 02:32:08


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Here's a question: Would (even) Bush be stupid enough to invade a country if he knew they had WMDs? They clearly didn't, and he knew he was invading them for the oil. Not even Bush would be stupid enough to invade a country with WMDs.

+1 billion (can I do that?)

At most you would bomb their weapons facilities (at most...). This is the same reason Obama did not invade Iran. If the president thought that Iran had a nuke like the hawks in the GOP kept ranting about then it would make literally 0 sense to invade or attack them.
A Declining Threat: Saddam Hussein: 12/31/2015 02:34:37


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Here's an interesting debate question:

Explain how this is relevant to today.
A Declining Threat: Saddam Hussein: 12/31/2015 02:35:43


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It's relevant today, because getting Hussein killed contributed to the collapse of Iraq, allowing insurgent groups such as IS to gain power, and land in a destabilised region. A country in turmoil is a perfect region for a terrorist group to form, because their land is low hanging fruit for military bases.
A Declining Threat: Saddam Hussein: 12/31/2015 02:37:31


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Ox you misspelt Blair and Bush.
A Declining Threat: Saddam Hussein: 12/31/2015 02:38:17


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Damit we basically all agree about iraq. Bush was crap end of story but honestly this would have happened when Hussain died any way so all Britain and America did was speed up the process
A Declining Threat: Saddam Hussein: 12/31/2015 02:40:24


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Actually, this whole situation couldve been avoided if in the early 1900s Britain had based borders on religious and racial groups rather than on colonial government borders.

We coulda had a Kurdistan, an Assyria, etc. and probably avoided 2/3 of this sh*t.
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