My whining wasn't even a day old when an awesome forum member gave me some tips on cracking the second Challenge game in Single Player. On my first try with these new gems, a board that had stymied me for 30+ attempts finally succumbed to my cunning and skills! I don't know if 28 turns is respectable or not, but it felt AWESOME to finally beat those two pesky teams. When I got to the "tipping" point and could feel that I had an excellent chance, I broke out in a nervous sweat. I swear, this game is intense and wonderful. I've never had so much fun with a browser-based game. Kudos to the designers and mega thanks to Ruthless!

Ruthless is Awesome we must bow to that

28 is pretty good considering I have only beat it once in 35 turns. Personally I find it a bit annoying to replay something many times just to be lucky enough to get a decent starting point. Definitely a challenge even with a good start point.

Wow. I just played my first round of "Insane," and I can't believe it's even possible. I thought I had things under control until armies appeared at the TOP of the map. I didn't notice the two worlds were even connected in that way! Doh!

I see what my new obsession is going to be: beating this impossible-seeming challenge. If you have tips, I'd love to hear them. My guess is you need to plug the connection south of Australia with an Abandon and then do the same with the one in the NE corner, up in Asia. Then the fight would take place at the top and bottom of the American continents. Still, I don't see how the enemy won't have an overwhelming army advantage. And I keep losing when I pit 4 armies against a neutral 2.

Argh, this game is infuriating and addicting.

I got 31 on Crazy, and currently haven't completed Insane.. although there are quite a few forum posts about Insane challange. It relies less on luck in starting location, and more on luck in combat, and how the AI works with itself.

and BTW, this is the what.. 4th? version of the Insane challange, each one progressively weaker.. I think the 3rd version is the first one anyone managed to beat it.

No problem! And that was just my brief notes on how to beat it without going into detail. Congrats on beating it! Now try to beat my score of 21 turns ;)

as for insane, the quickest answer i have is actually some video links (Thanks to George for putting these on youtube):

[Insane in 27 turns](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8xzwdKte_zc)
[Crazy in 19 turns](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2LnTptJr5Iw)

@Perrin

I think Doushi and Mor are the only ones to have beaten the original..or 2nd one...not sure which one it was, i'll have to look back at the forums.

This thread here will tell the story of Challenge 2 and the changes that were made and also all of the initial strategy. If you have some time...this is a good read.

http://warlight.net/Forum/Thread.aspx?ThreadID=136

Can't believe that video -- my expansion has never gone that well on insane. N-E-V-E-R!!