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Gold stars impossible due to 0% luck: 9/29/2015 16:32:55


Jay Sunn
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Just found out there are gold stars for single player games.
I tried to get it for level 1(!)... and failed. Which is impossible because I succeed always in everything! :P
So I checked settings and old tutorials. It seems single player settings were changed and luck dropped to 0%.

There is no way to beat level 1 in 6 rounds without luck!

But I want it! Because of reasons! :(




HARR, sorry, it's done, just got it.
There is luck! The move cycle! That was the key.

Edited 9/29/2015 16:42:49
Gold stars impossible due to 0% luck: 9/29/2015 16:43:18


Sephiroth 
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Just did it, you can do it - I won't tell you how it's done, you'll have to figure it out by yourself ;)
Gold stars impossible due to 0% luck: 9/29/2015 16:46:59


Richard Sharpe 
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Yup, completely impossible...
Gold stars impossible due to 0% luck: 9/29/2015 16:47:02


ps 
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no luck helps you conquer territories faster not slower
Gold stars impossible due to 0% luck: 9/29/2015 17:07:59


Angry Koala
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I just did it yesterday..
Gold stars impossible due to 0% luck: 9/29/2015 22:53:10


DomCobb
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I did it...
Gold stars impossible due to 0% luck: 9/29/2015 23:08:23


AWESOMEGUY 
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In the beginning, level 1 included 75% Luck, same with 2-3 I believe.

He's referring to the fact that with luck, once in a blue moon you could complete Europe and progress closer to Australia. But that would require a successful 3v2 and 2v2 attack, which is impossible without luck. With luck, it's possible but statistically very unlikely. But it can work, I've done it before.
Gold stars impossible due to 0% luck: 9/30/2015 07:58:21


Jay Sunn
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Mea culpa, I also did it yesterday, check my edit of the post.
The needed pinch of luck is in the move order.

Edited 9/30/2015 07:58:36
Gold stars impossible due to 0% luck: 9/30/2015 08:40:26


Ace Rimmer
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No need to rely on move order. This is achievable every time in 6 turns - no luck of any sort required.

Just think "shortest path" and "delay orders".
Gold stars impossible due to 0% luck: 9/30/2015 09:23:42


Jay Sunn
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Ace Rimmer, that's not true.
There are 2 possible starts for round 4 depending who takes Siam first.

1. Player took Siam first: Player starts in Siam with 7 and AI in Indonesia with 4 / attack will be 16 vs 11 -> fail

2. AI took Siam first: Player starts in Siam with 7 and AI in Indonesia with 3 / attack will be 16 vs 10 -> success


If you use 1 army to delay your attack to Siam you can't take it (12 attacking 8).
Gold stars impossible due to 0% luck: 9/30/2015 10:32:11

Алексей
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You do not need any luck to do this. Just do not rush into Ukraine too soon.
Gold stars impossible due to 0% luck: 9/30/2015 12:11:07


Ace Rimmer
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It is true - no luck required. As Алексей said, don't rush into Ukraine too soon.

Another way to say it is: don't take Ukraine on the first turn. Once you realize the truth, facepalm will eventuate.
Gold stars impossible due to 0% luck: 9/30/2015 14:42:20


Jay Sunn
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Challenge accepted. I say move order is required.
Sure, Ukraine falls on round 2, not 1. That's clear.

Here is what happens if you get to go first (cyclic move order!):

Round1: Player moves first, take middle east, weaken Ukraine
http://i.imgur.com/TbgYjq6.png

Round2: AI moves first, Player takes India and Ukraine
http://i.imgur.com/Rlmn0Ao.png

Round3: Player moves first, takes Siam, AI attacks Siam but can't take it
http://i.imgur.com/MpxvXcK.png

After that Player ends up with 7 in Siam and AI with 4 in Indonesia.

Round4: After deploy it's 17 in Siam and AI has 11 in Indonesia.
AI does not attack. Player attacks. 16 vs 11 -> fail.
http://i.imgur.com/QmH0VoQ.png


Show me how to win in 6 rounds when you get to go first in first round and I fall silent and shall cry silent tears.

Edited 9/30/2015 14:59:40
Gold stars impossible due to 0% luck: 9/30/2015 15:01:20

Quicksand 
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you did mistake in first turn

Edited 9/30/2015 15:03:32
Gold stars impossible due to 0% luck: 9/30/2015 15:05:58


Buns157 
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Jay you dont have to go first though, you have a leftover in europe to make sure you go 2nd.

Edit: Thats why you attack with 3 and not 2 then 2.

Edited 9/30/2015 15:06:43
Gold stars impossible due to 0% luck: 9/30/2015 15:27:10


Richard Sharpe 
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It has nothing to do with who gets first attack. You can win in 6 turns with either player getting first attack.

The issue lies in how the AI completes Australia. On the second turn, the AI should have 9 on New Guinea (or Western Aust) and will split the 8 available armies between the two remaining neutrals. If it splits it 5 and 3 then you can't enter Australia the following turn. If it splits it 4 and 4 then you can.
Gold stars impossible due to 0% luck: 9/30/2015 17:21:19


Jay Sunn
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I see. Never tried to take Ukraine without weakening it. That was the mistake.

*facepalm eventuat*
*fells silent and cries silent tears*
Gold stars impossible due to 0% luck: 9/30/2015 17:50:16


Richard Sharpe 
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How you take Ukraine is pretty much immaterial so long as you do it on turn 2. Any attempt to weaken it just results in more losses for you. Attacking with 1 then 2 or 2 then 2 just results in the loss of two armies and the use of 3 armies.

No matter how you spin it, you need to use 3 armies to conquer the territory. How you deploy those three is immaterial.
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