Yeah how many apex are there

I think 8 or 9 at most

Only played against 1 apex member, and 0 WM, but WM were interested in one of my friends joining their clan, so they clearly clearly have no standards...

(I'm joking by the way. Said friend is much better than me :P)

Apex by far- they know what they werw doig and they jave standards





- which is why they wont let me in

XD

Apex.

hmmm, interesting post, i would like to play a proper challenge against WM.

We could think and try to set a proper set of games.
1v1 and 3v3 for sure, but what else?
and how many players for 1v1?

And i would see us as underdogs, sze and piggy are playing really sharp, but i would think we have huge chances, even at 3v3.

wm, since jsa is in apex :P

@ Hellbender - That was hilarious. You seriously believe WM would be any different in your case?

@ Ryan - I wouldn't say Ladder is the only determinant - I would rather say average of apex might be higher at 1v1s, and while WM still has some 1v1 experts it is definitely superior in all teamgames..

@Arun - more prestigious? as far as prestige is concerned I think both apex and being a REAL wm member is the same prestige. Only difference WM has a couple of imposters while i am yet to see a player trying to appear as being an apex member. That might have skewed the general impression.

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My personal opinion is that both clans are tied for being the best here, but they focus on different game types: apex focusses on 1v1s, while WM is an overall clan focussed more on teamgames than 1v1s (though we still got players like Szeweningen, Artham or Dead Piggy who certainly are some of the very best 1v1 specialists out there). BTW As far as i know neither of the two clans is involved much in ffas..

I agree with Fridge on his last paragraph. I personally think Apex would have a slight edge on 1v1's on average. There are a few guys in [WM] that are top players (Szeweningen, Dead piggy) but I think overall I would say Apex is better on average at 1v1. At team games, I think [WM] is probably a bit better on average. Not many good players play FFA's, and I don't know anybody in Apex or [WM] who does (although 1-2 might) so I can't judge that. I'd say overall if you look at the average player, its about equal. However apex has only 8 players, and [WM] has about 15-20 as far as I know. It's more of a question of whether you want to be in a big clan or a tightknit clan in that scenerio. There are advantages and disadvantages with each. I personally think just about any [WM] guys would be allowed into apex and I think the same is true about any apex guys being allowed to join [WM]. I also know that many guys have been turned down from [WM] and apex both, and as far as I know, neither clan has accepted someone the other has turned down, so I'd say they have relatively even standards.

Arun, [WM] has had great ladder success because there are only 1-2 apexes playing the ladder in the last month or so while there have been many more [WM] players. I don't think that is a fair representation. I truly don't think you know enough to judge the difference between a good player and a great player except by what you have heard people say which is not always accurate. I'd say leave this discussion to players who know much more about play than you do. I don't understand how adding more players would make a clan seem less prestigious but I don't think it really matters. I'd say they are equal prestige if you want to get down to it.

I also would love a challenge against [WM]. I think 2v2 should be incorporated as well, either with Guiroma 2v2 or Strategic 2v2 on Medium Earth, depending on what everyone else wants. I think it would be close and I think it would be fun for both clans, no matter which clan won.

I'd say there is little doubt these are the best two clans on Warlight in terms of skill and I think just about anyone would agree with me. As for the next best clans in terms of average skill, I think [WG] or Relite would be next after [WM] and Apex and I know neither's average players could match up to the average player in Apex or [WM].

ｷﾗﾗｼﾓﾗｽﾐﾆﾐｷ ｶﾗ ﾝﾗﾅﾈ ﾁﾓｲｽﾆｿﾁ!

Hahaha Yuri, don't worry, if apex accepted to LISTE to your applyance, [WM] would close the door as soon as we hear your name. You have less than NO ONE chance to join [WM]. You have more chances to become president of your country thatn that, trust me.


Also, for the challenge is great, after this busy period of university exams we can prepare something interessant, also, to make show more enjoyble you could make a streamed challenge, what's your opinion about? Yuri, please, we don't want your useless opinion.

WM - 5

apex - 4

i live in america i have amazing chances of being president if obama did it hell i could do it if i was autistic

AMEN!

dont worry Yuri, just because red rejected you doesnt mean everyone does!. In fact, if you want to join rsp,just add thee tag within the next 48 hours and say talking tom let you if anyone asks

even better, add the apex and wg tag on, just to piss of jsa, since its so funny :D

Yeah, if a millionaire Harvard graduate could become president, then ANYBODY could.

hellbender, i agree, apex and wm are obviously both a bunch of noobs just because they don't see your potential
even the lighters kicked you out, i think you're really good, you might beat the best player in the game if you tried enough times (well, eventually he'd leave long enough to boot ^^).

A challenge seems like fun. :)
And yeah, I also agree that a 2v2 should be included, perhaps on Szeurope?

hahahaha you did'nt kick me out of lighters because of my skill warflowvet i was kicked out because I went inactive for a week which i explained to you and you still kicked me out

Hellbender, you were kicked out for countless inappropriate comments, and your general attitude on the forums. To be honest, you calling somebody a terrorist was the final straw for me. Your inactivity wasn't too much of a problem (you are active generally) but your behaviour was unacceptable. I felt like a headteacher reprimanding a 11 year old.