If any American gets upset over being called a 'yank' then he is a wanker and needs to get over himself. It's a harmless term and hardly pejorative.

Not the first time I've been called a wanker, not even today. Still, it's a bit annoying, as I probably dislike Yankees more than any Brit could. My great-grampappy didn't fight at Antietam for the glorious (if very, very misguided) Confederacy to see us slandered by calling us Yankees. Yankees don't even make barbeque!

yeah texasjohn, the opposite is the case really. im english but live in wales, and im reluctant to respond 'wales' rather than 'england' when asked what country im in. i dont really expect any foreigner to have even heard of wales, never mind conflate it with the whole of britain.

If this were 50 or 100 years ago, I could see the angst over being called a yank. But it's not... its been 150 years since the American Civil War. I think we can let bygones be bygones.

And it's not like the term yank is from that war... it stems from the US Revolutionary War in which the southerners played a major part.

So, Mike, who do you support? I'm a Man utd fan ;)

I'm gonna stay out of the civil war stuff :P I know it gets messy, Irish politics is still dominated by the civil war, as in, the only real difference between the two largest parties was.which side they were on during the civil war. I know, it's retarded. Welcome to Irish politics.

x, I know what you mean with people equating Britain to England. The worst though, I find, is when Ireland is included in Britain. I'm not a nationalist or anything (I could be hear a while if I start talking about nationalism lol) but we have been a sovereign nation for nearly a century now. I guess I just want people to get things right :P

I'll give you a clue. My middle name is Dalglish. First person to guess which team i support (English)gets a free pick at ukraine in our next europe game.

Well now that you've mentioned king Kenny I can only assume Liverpool. I'm resisting the urge to taunt you, but I don't know how long I'll be able stop myself for ;)

True enough Richard, and it's not like I am actually furious. And while the term "yank" may come from the Revolutionary War, my people weren't involved in that, as far as I know. I equate it more with the Civil War, as Texas was in the Confederacy, although I don't think anyone could refer to Texas as "the South". The Middle Earth map has the regions of the US about right.

Anyways this is getting totally off topic, so let's allow this horse to die in peace. Good luck finding a reliable 2v2 partner, Mike! You are far more trusting than I!

One last thing, @Mike:

I have many English friends, and when we are all taking the piss, the WORST (read: funniest) thing I can call them is Welsh. Although when I am doing so, I usually add "sheep shagger" to the end. As far as I have seen, calling an Englishman Welsh is a pretty decent insult.

What an interesting discussion. As a Southerner, I grew up referring to anyone who lived north of Northern Virginia as a "Yankee," (not necessarily pejoratively though). Then I moved to northern Maine, where crusty old-timers use the word proudly, but usually as an adjective: ("Yankee know-how," etc.). However, to them, a Yankee is a New Englander. A fisherman from Maine would never refer to someone from, say, New York, as a Yankee.

Incidentally, growing up we had a neighbor from Wales who proudly claimed that the Welsh were the only people on the British Isles not to be conquered by the English. I don't know UK history enough to know if he was right, but I do know Wales is part of the British Empire, so maybe, they agreed to be annexed rather than fight?

if i had paypal i would have a bought a membership long a go it is just an hassle to join paypal for dat considering i can't even get pass making a strong password on it.
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|> *it is just an hassle to join paypal*

You don't need to join Paypal. Just click the link that says "Pay as PayPal Guest" and it gives you a standard payment form just like any online purchase would.

Not exactly replying to mike, so much as I'm just making a general statement. Trying to get back into the swing of warlight, and looking for a 2v2 partner~

Mike, the guy above has my recommendation. With that profile picture and Hanzou as his ex nickname you can take him with open arms :)

He's also an excellent player :)

fizzer why credit card isn't listed here also i don't get bill me later it will be easier if you explained it to me.

Strange, I had no problem buying a membership with no PayPal, but then again I am relatively naiive and trusting. As far as I know, and like Fizzer explained, it is just like any other online purchase with a credit card. It's easy, and relatively cheap, although I imagine that depends where you live. In the US, $30 is almost nothing, but where I live you can live on that for a week if you try. It's why so few of my crew have joined.

About the conquering wales bit - The Anglo-Saxons never managed to conquer Wales (or Cumbria my birthplace hehe). But the French / Norsemen (William the conquerer) conquered the Anglo-Saxons (originally German / Dutch chaps) in 1066 and his dynasty later conquered the surrounding nations on the islands and incorporated them into what eventually became Great Britain. Wales was indeed annexed after the defeat of the great Owain Glyndŵr the th century the principality was passed to the next in line to the English throne has a hereditary fief hence the crown prince's of England being known as the Prince of Wales until they ascend the British throne at which point the next in line becomes the Prince of Wales (or Princess)

People stop hijacking my thread! If i wanted to be bored i would watch the history channel!

The History Channel isn't boring! They have "Swamp Loggers", and "Deadliset Catch", and about 30 other shows about logging and fishing!