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Trans Ban (Hail Trump): 7/26/2017 21:10:20


Paugers 
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Opinions on the military transgender ban? Also is Trump the best president since Andrew Jackson?
Trans Ban (Hail Trump): 7/26/2017 21:17:24

(((Tabby Juggernaut)))
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Why are you interested in such a small group of people?

My attitude towards transexuals is that I absolutely don't care about them.

Yes Trump is great.

As Yudkowsky said reverse stupidity is not intelligence. Reverse libtardness is not intelligence either.

Edited 7/26/2017 21:33:36
Trans Ban (Hail Trump): 7/26/2017 21:36:45


Жұқтыру
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Why are you interested in such a small group of people?


Paugers himself has admitted to being a queer.
Trans Ban (Hail Trump): 7/26/2017 21:50:17

(((Tabby Juggernaut)))
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^Stop.
Trans Ban (Hail Trump): 7/26/2017 21:55:08


gilead
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We have to get transgender bathrooms in wal-mart before we can begin to start installing them in the Middle East.
Trans Ban (Hail Trump): 7/26/2017 21:58:20


Major General Smedley Butler
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You know what this insitution that kills millions of innocent people for oils REAL crime is? Not letting trans people do it with them.
Trans Ban (Hail Trump): 7/26/2017 22:07:51


Von Jewburg
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traps aren't gay, unless you're specifically looking for traps.
Trans Ban (Hail Trump): 7/26/2017 22:12:43


Жұқтыру
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^Stop.


It's the truth. ask Paugers himself
Trans Ban (Hail Trump): 7/26/2017 22:19:36


OxTheAutist 
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Pretty sure it's some move to get the right all wet and the left all angry to distract everyone from his major fuckups. Either way, it's still a bad policy.
Trans Ban (Hail Trump): 7/26/2017 22:52:13


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Ah yes, hail Trump, he's banned a tiny group of people I like to call degenerate because this is what my toxic right-wing identity revolves around so I can look at myself in the mirror and feel really cool and masculine. Truly this will make USA's military much much stronger than before and now he's the greatest biggest president ever.

I honestly don't know how many transgender were serving in the military anywhere and I'm not updated on the problems they're accused of causing. My impression is they're not really big and it won't make a significant difference for the ones who are not transgender. I don't have a big understanding of what it's like to be transgender but I wish them the best.
Mostly sounds like pandering to conservatives rather than based on military interests.
Trans Ban (Hail Trump): 7/26/2017 22:53:43

(((Tabby Juggernaut)))
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I'm not sure what the real concern is. Differences in gender that can harm military performance or the Red/Blue idiocy?

The former is a legit concern. I don't care about the latter.

Edited 7/26/2017 22:54:17
Trans Ban (Hail Trump): 7/27/2017 13:11:42


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Transgenders are most likely to cause issues than other personal just based on the nature of their condition. Allowing them to be in a high stress and potentially traumatising environment where the negative effects (PTSD ect) felt by many active personal cumulated with there already existing condition isn't wise. It might be somewhat 'kind' to allow those already serving to stay but kindnesses isn't a function of the military.

+1 MGSB

And gommies get out
Trans Ban (Hail Trump): 7/27/2017 13:14:12

(((Tabby Juggernaut)))
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^That's legit. I just want to know whether the religious lobby is behind it.
Trans Ban (Hail Trump): 7/27/2017 13:54:24


OxTheAutist 
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Well no, the nature of their condition means that they feel like they're the other gender. If they can't deal with high stress environments, that's for them to decide and not a nanny state that doesn't know how each individual in that group reacts to high stress situations. Just because it's a small law, don't let that get in the way of the fact that it's a dumb law.
Trans Ban (Hail Trump): 7/27/2017 14:22:24


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Trump isn't the best president since Jackson, but he is the best president since James K Polk.

"Transgender" people that seriously entertain their illness are not fit for military service. They require artificial hormones to emulate the opposite sex. These drugs take a toll on their mental and physical health, and would not be available depending on the combat situation. Trans "women" XY men that undergo reassignment surgery are far worse off, since their mutilated genitals are prone to infection and require constant maintenance to avoid healing over.

A military's soldiers' bodies should self-regulate. Their soldiers should not be dependent on body-altering drugs.

Furthermore, trans people usually already have a host of other mental disorders, enough to bar most of them from service without an explicit trans ban.
Trans Ban (Hail Trump): 7/27/2017 14:51:26


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>The NANNY STATE means the military rejects inferior soldiers

this is why the lolbertarian left isn't taken seriously my friend

Ox's idea of the NANNY STATE:

Government-funded schools banning right-wing opinions in certain spaces: OK
Military rejecting trannies: NANNY STATE
Trans Ban (Hail Trump): 7/27/2017 14:56:20


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I'm kinda glad. If I need to go to the USA permanently and Trump/whoever it is makes enlisting in the military required, I get off scott free!

But in all seriousness, it's kinda pointless. If they want to serve, they shuld be able to. The PTSD issues should be tested in training
Trans Ban (Hail Trump): 7/27/2017 16:09:13


OxTheAutist 
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Government-funded schools banning right-wing opinions in certain spaces: OK
afaik i've never said anything about safe spaces on this forum, feel free to point that out. It seems like you're assigning stereotypes based on what a leftist looks like in your mind, and what you've consumed from your right wing echo-chamber, and not what I've actually said.
inferior soldiers
if they can meet the same standards as everyone else, let them in. You don't need a blanket ban for that. Anyone can kill.
trans people usually already have a host of other mental disorders
well don't let them in for the other mental disorder, not by nature of being trans.
Their soldiers should not be dependent on body-altering drugs.
Most trans people don't "depend" on body-altering drugs, they simply help with testosterone/estrogen amounts. It's not as if these people are incapable of firing a gun without their supplement.
their mutilated genitals are prone to infection
Everyone has parts of their body that are prone to infection. What makes this special?

Beyond this, your argument is that people going through surgery shouldn't be allowed to serve in the military. Duh. Just like every other surgery.

Let's not forget that they've been banned from non-combat roles as well, something you've failed to acknowledge.
Trans Ban (Hail Trump): 7/27/2017 18:19:05


The Cruelest
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Transgenderism is a mental disease diagnosed as "Gender Dysphoria". The Government reserves the right to ban those with mental illness from the military.

Furthermore, no trans person should receive taxpayer funded hormone therapy or taxpayer funded re-assignment surgery even if said trans person is in the military.
Trans Ban (Hail Trump): 7/27/2017 18:19:10


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Transgenderism is a mental disease diagnosed as "Gender Dysphoria". The Government reserves the right to ban those with mental illness from the military.

Furthermore, no trans person should receive taxpayer funded hormone therapy or taxpayer funded re-assignment surgery even if said trans person is in the military.
Trans Ban (Hail Trump): 7/27/2017 19:26:28

(((Tabby Juggernaut)))
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^Your second concern is sufficient to have a trans ban.

Edited 7/27/2017 19:26:39
Trans Ban (Hail Trump): 7/27/2017 20:50:41


OnlyThePie
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Somebody remind me why I care what gender serves in the military? As long as we aren't paying for their surgeries or whatever, let them serve. Instead of banning them, just ban payment for their "treatments" that aren't actually related to their health.

Edited 7/27/2017 20:51:09
Trans Ban (Hail Trump): 7/27/2017 21:02:15

(((Tabby Juggernaut)))
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^I'm only concerned with whether they can fight and whether they are more expensive than other soldiers.
Trans Ban (Hail Trump): 7/28/2017 01:26:25


[WOLF] The Conservative
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Andrew Jackson actually sucked really hard. He led the country to the financial crisis of the 1830s and left poor Van Buren to pick up after his shit show. He was very well known for constantly breaking the Constitution, he threw the biggest political fit in history because he lost an election to JQA, and he let his dumbfuck supporters destroy the White House, losing hundreds of precious artifacts left over from Washington's presidency that we can never replace. He literally caused physical damage as President the first day then England did when they torched the place in 1812. He didn't do anything useful. He halted the pivotal construction of federal roads, except in Tennesse, where his political base existed.

He preached small government, then he expanded the powers of the presidency. He talked about how important working with congress was, then he went around them 90% of the time. But I do agree, in the end, he's exactly like Trump; they are both arrogant, they cry when they lose, they both have a base of support with an IQ of 70 and that were mostly white young dumbfuck school dropouts, and they both have zero respect for Republican or Democratic institutions. And yeah and they both sucked at governing.
Trans Ban (Hail Trump): 7/28/2017 01:29:53


[WOLF] The Conservative
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Also, when it comes to that ban, those decent human beings who want to serve their country should, because god knows none of the idiotic bastards in their parent's basement against it ever will. Also, something else to consider is that these people, a few of which literally had their testicles removed, STILL HAVE more balls than these white neo-nazi bastards on this forum.

Also, let's just consider the fact that the military spends more on viagra for poor little white men who can't get it up than it does on anything related to transgender persons. So if we cut anything, start with the dick pills, please.

Edited 7/28/2017 01:31:42
Trans Ban (Hail Trump): 7/28/2017 01:35:21


Жұқтыру
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Now ban everyone from the military. Then the mission will be complete and Trump will go down as one of America's most well-liked presidents.

(Hail Trump)

Edited 7/28/2017 01:36:50
Trans Ban (Hail Trump): 7/28/2017 01:39:46

(((Tabby Juggernaut)))
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^^How is whiteness relevant to the issue of viagra?
Trans Ban (Hail Trump): 7/28/2017 01:42:14


[WOLF] The Conservative
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Statistically, white males over 40 take it most so yeah in this case it does.

http://www.healthcentre.org.uk/pharmacy/erectile-dysfunction-statistics.html

http://www.cvs.com/drug/viagra/patient-statistics

Edited 7/28/2017 01:42:33
Trans Ban (Hail Trump): 7/28/2017 01:44:12


Bla 
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How many trans people are in USA's military?

Williams Institute at UCLA University estimated 15,500 active using surveys from 2011
Rand Corporation estimated 1320-6630 active
On the order of magnitude less than 0.5% of the forces

What are the costs?

Rand Corporation estimated 2.4-8.4 million USD, 0.1% of medical costs for all service members (https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2017-07-26/here-s-how-many-trans-people-serve-in-the-u-s-military)

http://www.dr.dk/nyheder/udland/kritik-af-udgifter-til-transkoennede-soldater-det-svarer-til-et-par-besoeg-paa-et-af

Now I'm not sure how reliable those numbers are, but if they're just within an order of magnitude of that, it's interesting, their military spends more than 10 times as much on viagra and other erectile dysfunction stuff (84 million USD according to Military Times).
http://www.dr.dk/nyheder/udland/usas-militaer-bruger-store-summer-paa-viagra

But hail Trump for his fantastic priorities he will truly save USA's military with this *cough* *cough*
Trans Ban (Hail Trump): 7/28/2017 03:11:36


Castle Bravo
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Its because there are so few of them in the military. Not a single penny should be spent to accommodate people with mental disorders in the military.

Erectile dysfunction is a condition developed by normal men with combat potential.


Also Andrew Jackson killed the fuckin bank!

Edited 7/28/2017 03:12:19
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