Apparently I'm not actually on the forum...

But then wherre am I? Ah, existential crisis!

there is no crying in baseball

This isn't baseball, this is WarLight. Saying that is just not cricket.

I actually completely agree with Taxi: Direct boot exists for a reason. 'Gnuff said.

^no, that's what auto-boot is for, not direct-boot.

I actually don't think there's anything wrong with doing it. I'd just rather not play with people who do.

there is no crying in baseball

But apparently there is crying in WarLight. This is a revelation to even myself. Time to sit and sob about the 3v3s I could have won before my teammate was booted.

Loony, the "G" is an important part of the joke :P

Taxi driver , u abuse booting as u abuse heroin and sex

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You can choose to boot people as soon as the timer expires. We can choose to blacklist you. Simple enough. .

it's surely no satisfying situation, when you blacklist everyone who is quick-booting and still meant[EDIT: meet] new quick-booters as there are so many in warlight.
from that the situation is like it is doesnt follow it ought to be so.
We all have a chance to improve the mindset in warlight,
We all can strengthen the ostracism of early- booting.

I actually completely agree with Taxi: Direct boot exists for a reason. 'Gnuff said.

I will have to justify why early booting is wrong:
we all wish that games run fast, and players don't let us wait on purpose, so we had to the booting feature. But sometimes occur situations, when a player takes longer for his move, not as he is spoiling, but only because he had to do sth urgent in real life or had pc problems.

it is totally normal that such situations occur. if a player doesnt slow the game permanently, he shoulnt be booted for that.
In contrast players who boot early effect that boottimes will rise, as nobody wants to risk being booted of stupid reasons, and if there is an actual spoiler, we will wait even longer.

Edited 8/8/2014 18:39:21

Master ARC,

I still await your explanation of what the direct-boot feature is for, and why it exists in the game. I think you avoid the question on purpose.


Cephistokles,

What do you mean by 'early booting'? You cannot boot a player early. Only when the timer runs out....which is the point of this thread - everyone operates under the same clock, and the time constraint is PART OF THE GAME.

If someone is losing, they can simply run down the clock. It might take you 10 or 15 turns to eliminate them.

So what? I think that dragging out the game is an excellent way to test an enemy's concentration and dedication to the game. If you can't be bothered to spend 1-2 hours eliminating your opponent, you don't deserve to win, end of story.

but going on the toilet and having a 2min turn shouldn't be rewarded by a boot!

If your bladder is weaker than your opponent's, well, that means you're too incompetent to win, and you should get booted.

Apparently I'm not actually on the forum...

Good.

Anyway, overall I have to say I'm rather disappointed with the drop in quality of forum posts. Back in the days of Illuminati's prominence, we never would have tolerated this foolishness. Hail Illuminati! WOLOLO!!!

Edited 8/5/2014 20:36:57

"if you can't spend 2 hours you don't 'deserve' to win"





wtf does that even mean? most single sitting games are over in less than 20 minutes.

I don't know which is more confusing - people who attach some kind of morality to winning and losing, or people who think ranked games should stop for potty breaks.

get real.

Cephistokles,

What do you mean by 'early booting'? You cannot boot a player early. Only when the timer runs out....which is the point of this thread - everyone operates under the same clock, and the time constraint is PART OF THE GAME.

If you can't be bothered to spend 1-2 hours eliminating your opponent, you don't deserve to win, end of story.

it is a folish american way to reason like you do. Learn about Hume's law!
i already know that the game mechanics are as they are. I repeat to say: it doesnt follow that it is good that they are like this.

We can in effect CHANGE the "soft game mechanics" by implementing social norms, as humans tend to adhere to them under social pressure. and this is what we actually talk about: we wont change the hard game mechanics, but we decide whether to hate and ostracize earlybooters or not.

Edited 8/7/2014 22:03:13

" or people who think ranked games should stop for potty breaks. "

Of course they should, and you're a goddamn moron for arguing otherwise.

If you're playing an actual game of risk, do you declare yourself the winner and put the game away when your buddy goes to take a piss?

What's the point of even playing if your real goal is just to win via boot at the earliest possible chance?

Master Race,

Risk is not a timed game. If it were, you might have a point. In fact, I'm hard pressed to think of even one timed competition game of any kind that allows for bathroom breaks.



Cephistokles,

criticizing American culture is not argument. Further if you think there 'ought to be' a game with bathroom breaks, make one. Warlight does not have it. The clock does not care what 'ought to be', and rightly so.

Cephistokles,

criticizing American culture is not argument. Further if you think there 'ought to be' a game with bathroom breaks, make one. Warlight does not have it. The clock does not care what 'ought to be', and rightly so.

criticizing American culture is not argument, true. The argument actually was Hume's law. It's contempt is part of my critique of American culture. I just stated this aside.
You still don't seem to understand, that WE CAN change the actual setting of warlight by changing it's social settings. Thus Warlight DOES have as the case may be "bathroom breaks".
I dont care if the clock cares or not, I care if players care. And we can make them care.

Edited 8/8/2014 18:33:43

seems like a self-delusion to me.

the only thing you change is who you play with. The larger game landscape, operating under the reality of the clock, goes on without you.

Does the ability to do an action without fear of punishment mean that that action is "right"?

taxi driver i didnt understand you well, do you want to say cannot change warlight by changing my behavior or what?

and bob is so right: you act as if the possibility to do it makes early booting a good thing

a 'good' thing? a 'right' action? There you go again attributing some kind of morality to the landscape. It's neither good nor bad. The landscape doesn't care. It just is.


In any timed competition, one side is often happy to see the clock run out. Whether it is 'right' or 'wrong' that the clock should run out is not part of the equation.

the time constraint is PART OF THE GAME

the clock is part of the measure of the skill of a player

Edited 8/9/2014 16:08:17