i would but i am taking a break from 1v1 for awhile i even dropped out of ladders

jspppp! challenge meee! idc which map, but i wanna play you again! i've practiced on 16% luck so now i'm used to it >.<

@Gnulbegg
No, it's because WarLight, when faced uneven teams, can't figure out on which team you were (I believe Fizzer wrote about it before).

I think win rate has a lot to do with a person's skills. But you shouldn't judge them purely by win rate.

Since i played 2000 games, I played a lot of games with players with both good win rate, average win rate and bad win rate. (however, due to the recent (ok maybe not so recent) player fluctuation, a lot of average players are increasing their win rate by playing with the new players)

Generally speaking, i find I easily outwit players who have bad win rates, and I find I actually have to think carefully against players with higher win rates.

I personally have around 67% win rate (give or take 1 percent), and I think i'm above average in terms of skill.

personally, in team games, i categorize players into excellent players (70%+), good players (55%+), average players (40%+), bad players, (40%-). Usually, this holds out. (but as I said, many average players have boosted their win rate due to new players, thus many players with 70% win rates are much worse than I am) On the other hand, i rarely ever see players with bad win rates who are actually good players (I see a few every now and then, but they are very rare).
Obviously, in ffa, the percentage is much lower, because someone with 50% win rate in ffa is an excellent player in my opinion. Nonetheless, win rate still play a large role in determining the skills of the player.

Thus, I think win rate is a fairly (not extremely) precise way of judging his/her skill.

If a player plays on the same settings for 2000 games with random players (such as the 1v1 auto game) his/her win rate will be quite high (assuming he's good at it), on the contrary, if he sucks at it, then his win rate will be quite low.

I often play on the 1v1 auto-games, and I sometimes find players with 80% win rate, and players with only 40% win rate, this suggest that both good players and bad players play on the 1v1 auto game, and thus there is no doubt to me that the 80% win rate player will beat the 40% win rate player on that setting (of course, out of 10 games, he might lose once, since I occasionally lose to players half my win rate). But generally speaking, the chances favour the one with higher win rate.

In addition, if you play in the ladders (or tournaments), you win rate will be around 50% (since the ladder will automatically match you with someone close to your level). But, by combining these games with the auto-games, your overall win rate will be more balanced, and reflects your skills more accurately. Because i played in the ladders, my 1v1 win rate is at 68% (give or take), where I can easily beat a 80% win rate person in an auto game (but no necessarily). (i mean, my best rating was 2014 (8th place) after all). :)

Therefore, this is the reason I consider anyone with 70% win rate or higher as equivalent in terms of skill, as my other percent ranges. But when the win rate difference is very large, then it makes a lot of difference.

actually falcon you forfeited the match, since we said we'd do a set of 3 games and you changed your mind half way through :)

http://WarLight.net/MultiPlayer.aspx?GameID=3187197
i dont see anywhere in teh chat where we agreed for a 3 games dont lie about me?

>75% win rates on 1vs1 means they are good and only play on familiar maps against lower opponents.

>75% win rates on 2vs2 or 3vs3 means they are good and only play with good team mates. ever saw a high win rate player on a random teams game? ofcourse not.

the question is, why should you care how others built up their win rate? let them brush their ego with their win rate inflation. in the end what you need to do to win is play better on equal grounds. so just make sure the settings are not allowing newbs to join your team when joining a game against guys with high win rate. and don't join under their maps and their settings unless you know them well. if you play better in equal grounds their higher win rates will only make them more likely to underestimate you with your non inflated win rate.

tl:dr; read settings before joining or stfu. ;)

this is not the right place to discuss this, its not relevant to the topic, so this is my last post but it was said in the game in which we decided to do the challenge.

Considering the things people do to gain a point? Your life depends on your win rate.

Win rates depend on who you play with and on which maps, i just challenged about half of apex, WM, and ahol to strategic 1V1s because i prefer a challenge and learning experience to an easy win...