- downvoted post by Nate
Would you take a vaccine shot, and why?: 7/18/2020 03:44:37 |
Nate
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Hi, I'm an Amish man, and therefore can't accept vaccines for religious reasons. HOWEVER, I really want one. Problem is, Uncle Jededoseph 2 says needles in a man is the first way to Hell. . .
Hope that helps!
-Manford ~A son of God~
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Would you take a vaccine shot, and why?: 7/18/2020 20:08:58 |
Lightning
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If you go by logic, if vaccine works and you take it. Then it means you're protected, why would they force it on me or anyone else who is against it. You take it if you believe it works and you're protected then, imma take my "risks" and skip on it cause it's disasterous for health with unknown consequences for long term health...
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Would you take a vaccine shot, and why?: 7/18/2020 20:21:50 |
The Voynich Manuscript
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I don't get what you're trying to say...
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Would you take a vaccine shot, and why?: 7/19/2020 01:52:40 |
Skaarfungandr the Mighty
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If you have a right to not take a vaccine and risk being sick, I have a right to not be put at risk by other's stupidity.
I'm pretty sure the "individual" rights of a collective population outweigh the individual rights of a minority. Especially since this goes beyond a personal preference and actually affects other people.
Edited 7/19/2020 01:53:30
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Would you take a vaccine shot, and why?: 7/19/2020 02:45:23 |
goodgame
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I fail to see how one's refusal to take a vaccine would effect another's health.
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Would you take a vaccine shot, and why?: 7/19/2020 03:47:55 |
Georg Friedrich Ferdinand, Prinz von Preußen
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Person A takes vaccine for influenza. Person B doesn't. They meet and B has the flu. Person A now has the influenza virus in their system. Their body tries to fight it off, but this year's virus and vaccine don't completely match, so A is now sick with the flu. Now let's say person A has a weakened immune system. They are at massive of death now. We typically wait to take new vaccines to ensure they work and don't have excess side effects.
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Would you take a vaccine shot, and why?: 7/19/2020 03:51:29 |
Georg Friedrich Ferdinand, Prinz von Preußen
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Nate, vaccines are not nonreligious. The past few Popes have taken vaccines and encouraged people to take vaccines. If you say the Pope is wrong, then your religion is not anywhere near Catholicism.
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Would you take a vaccine shot, and why?: 7/19/2020 06:26:16 |
Skaarfungandr the Mighty
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"I fail to see how one's refusal to take a vaccine would effect another's health." - Goodgame
So you're telling me that people who don't take vaccines - or get sick for that matter - never pass germs to other people? Lol ok dude. I won't let you bait me.
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Would you take a vaccine shot, and why?: 7/19/2020 06:51:46 |
l4v.r0v
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3 reasons for just the annual flu vaccine:
1. Some people can't get vaccinated for whatever reason (medical or even financial) or simply haven't gotten the shot yet; they rely on herd immunity 2. Some people are really at risk and can't survive the flu if their own vaccine doesn't work; they rely on herd immunity 3. Vaccines have failure rates; unless you want to leave 1/3 of people at risk for flu every year, we need the vast majority of the population to vaccinate so herd immunity circumvents this gap
But you're right, it's your choice: You can help society in one of 2 ways, by either getting vaccinated or leaving for the wilderness where you will not endanger others. Or you can continue to exist in society as an inconsiderate, illiterate, or insistently ignorant reminder that human potential does not always pan out as human intelligence. Entirely your choice.
Edit: Removed suggestion that anti-vaxxers should get euthanized as that may not be in line with Warzone ToS
Edited 7/19/2020 17:03:39
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Would you take a vaccine shot, and why?: 7/19/2020 08:49:15 |
Math Wolf
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But you're right, it's your choice: You can help society in one of 2 ways, by getting either vaccinated or euthanized. Or you can continue to exist as an inconsiderate, illiterate, or insistently ignorant reminder that human potential does not always pan out as human intelligence. Entirely your choice. I believe the above is a little too strong of a stance and not in line with Warzone's ToS. Nevertheless, I fully understand and agree with the underlying reasoning. Choosing not to get vaccinated is dangerous not only for yourself, but also to others as Knyte outlined in the easiest way possible. Arguably, making this topic and stubbornly ignoring all scientific evidence is a lot worse than anything Knyte just said because his words have a lot less chance of severely impacting the health of other people than your words have. It saddens me that people can genuinely believe this type of absolute nonsense. I sincerely hope you (Lightning) are only trolling, in which case there is absolutely nothing funny about it. The anti-vax movement has gone too far and is effectively a major health risk in several countries now. I can't understand how people keep finding ever new ways of endangering their fellow citizens through sheer stupidity and misplaced pride into denying anything they can't understand. In that way, I completely agree with Knyte and I would like to respectfully ask you to either rethink your choice or shut up about this topic instead of spreading your disgusting ideas to others.
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Would you take a vaccine shot, and why?: 7/19/2020 22:24:52 |
goodgame
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So, I say I don't know something, and you respond as if either I'm trolling you or I'm anti-vax and trying to convince others not to be vaccinated. I'm neither, I just didn't know a certain thing on this topic.
Yes, even things considered common knowledge are unknown to some people. Deal with it.
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Would you take a vaccine shot, and why?: 7/19/2020 23:53:18 |
Dullahan
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Where the fuck does my penis go when it shrinks???
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Would you take a vaccine shot, and why?: 7/20/2020 00:31:31 |
l4v.r0v
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Would you take a vaccine shot, and why?: 7/20/2020 01:41:32 |
LND
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Can I just point out, I think others have said something along these lines already: Afaik, the only (or one of the only) scientific publication(s) ever to support the link between autism and vaccination was published in the Lancet Medical Journal, and was later retracted because the scientific community rightly pointed out that the findings were dodgy. If there is any link between autism and vaccines, as someone already said, I think, it is that the age at which autism is usually diagnosed coincides with the age at which children are usually vaccinated. Now some may say, is that really a coincidence? Yes. Because statistics have shown that there is absolutely no significant difference in autism rates between vaccinated and unvaccinated children. So, as I have stated before, whatever claims antivax people have to support their viewpoint, none of them are scientific.
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Would you take a vaccine shot, and why?: 7/20/2020 02:48:32 |
Norman
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As a non scientist I would expect a scientific study regarding vaccination ==> autism with the Amish as case study to work this way: - To which extent do the Amish vaccinate their children less than the general population? - To which extent are Amish children less prone to autism than the general population? - Since autism needs a proper diagnosis, how can we make sure that the Amish autism data is comparable to the Autism data of the general population? - If we have indeed found a correlation, why can we assume that this correlation implies a causation? - Why are we using the Amish, who are kinda inbred, as our case study? I'm not interested in reading a scientific paper and especially not if it's in a field I'm not familiar with, so it's cool to give me the summary for the general public which answers the questions asked above in understandable terms. https://www.longdom.org/open-access/gabr-genes-autism-spectrum-disorder-and-epilepsy-2165-7890-1000131.pdf however just throws lot's of mumbo jumbo at me. It begins like that: As one MIT researcher, Dr. Stephanie Seneff has already predicted, if the current trendcontinues unabated and if nothing is done to shift this momentum in a positive direction today, the incidence of Autism would be 1 in 2 children in the U.S by 2025.OK, MIT is serious and the Dr. Stephanie Seneff is a real person with a Wikipedia article. However then again for each and every bizarre statement you can find some peson of authority as a proponent of this viewpoint. Apparently Dr. Seneff is a computer scientist. Well, I happen to know lot's of computer scientists with a PhD and I would trust not one of them one bit when it comes to psychology / medicine.
Edited 7/20/2020 02:49:11
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Would you take a vaccine shot, and why?: 7/20/2020 04:06:27 |
kytne
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@Norman: The author of that Energetic Immunity paper (w.r.t. Amish people & autism) is this person: https://www.selfgrowth.com/experts/rajalakshmi-kandaswamyShe is the Author of the E-Book : How to Heal Autism and ADHD in 30 Days : The Phenomenally Powerful Breakthrough Of Intent Healing ™ She appears to be a fringe scientist affiliated with the Institute of Noetic Sciences (parapsychology- e.g., ESP and psychic healing). It seems like she has made a career out of peddling Deepak Chopra-esque borderline-Dianetics nonsense; if you look at the references for the paper, the first actually is Deepak Chopra. So we are looking at a modern-day quack dressing up woo behind sciencey-sounding words. The fact that the paper throws mumbo jumbo at you is likely by design. The thing Dr. Kandaswamy (the "Dr." comes not from a PhD but from an M.B.B.S. from India- a 5-year undergraduate degree; she also does not practice in a field related to autism, apparently specializing in fertility medicine) is pushing here is "Energy Healing" and "Energy Immunity"- her terms for using your thoughts to magically fight or prevent illness. She sells a book for parents of autistic children to cure their children's autism in 30 days. That's likely the intended audience for her paper, to add a veneer of scientific credibility to her predatory pseudoscience. For Seneff, whose domain of expertise appears to be human-computer interaction (HCI) and natural language processing (NLP): https://vaxopedia.org/2017/07/28/who-is-stephanie-seneff/Yes. Dr. Stephanie Seneff, the Senior Research Scientist at the MIT Computer Science and Artificial Intelligence Laboratory, thinks that school shootings and terrorism attacks are caused by the herbicide Roundup.
Edited 7/20/2020 04:39:08
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Would you take a vaccine shot, and why?: 7/20/2020 12:44:17 |
Nauzhror
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"If you go by logic, if vaccine works and you take it. Then it means you're protected, why would they force it on me or anyone else who is against it. You take it if you believe it works and you're protected then, imma take my "risks" and skip on it cause it's disasterous for health with unknown consequences for long term health..."
It's not disastrous for your health, and the reason they are at times mandatory is because you getting a communicable illness can kill not only you, but others that you interact with. If illnesses were not contagious, then sure, you'd only be harming yourself with your stupidity, but alas, we live in a society in which you interact with other people and in which your stupidity can directly affect and kill others.
In the future please restrain from using the word logic to describe nonsense that is anything but logical.
Edited 7/20/2020 12:49:41
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- downvoted post by Lightning
Would you take a vaccine shot, and why?: 7/20/2020 13:17:01 |
Lightning
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Sure go ahead and believe whatever mainstream media tells you, without checking. Just believe them they're here to save you... None ever gonna force that on me, and as I said before if you took it then you're safe. Why would a non vaccinated person be an issue for the one that's vaccinated if the VACCINE works. Do you have any common sense?! If it "works" then you're protected. Everybody MUST have a right to decide for themselves and thats it...
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