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Edge's Clan Rankings: 5/26/2017 21:19:41


Aura Guardian 
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Comparing this to Benjamin628 Rankings done on 12/26/2015 ( https://www.warlight.net/Forum/126827-benjamin628s-clan-rankings?Offset=0 ) We find:

1. Masters (steady)
2. Lynx (+5)
3. GG (steady)
4. Outlaws (not ranked)
5. Turtles (+3)
6. One! (+6)
7. French (-1)
8. M'Hunters (+8)
9. Blitz (+1)
10. VS (-1)
11. WG (-6)
12. Hydra (not ranked)
13. 7th (not ranked)
14. Stats (not ranked)
15. FCC (not ranked)
16. 101st (not ranked)
17. Vikinger (not ranked)
18. Apprentice (not ranked)
19. CORP (steady)
20. ACME (not ranked)

Apex went from 2nd to Not Ranked
[20] Went from 4th to Not Ranked
AHoL went from 11th to Not Ranked
Warlighters went from 13th to Not Ranked
Viw went from 14th to 26th (-12)
Illumninati went from 15th to Not Ranked
Stahlgewittern went from 17th to Not Ranked
AWF went from 18th to Not Ranked
Yin Yang went from 20th to Not Ranked

Excepting VIW, who went from 14th to 26th, all clans below 20 were not ranked beforehand.
Edge's Clan Rankings: 5/26/2017 21:38:40


Math Wolf 
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Currently Math Wolf and Jackie Treehorn are the two best players in the clan.

I know you didnt count Yeon since you counted him as inactive. But he is still around and IMO by far the best player of Stats. Its kind of hard whether or not to take him into account. But I think it wouldnt hurt to do so.

It is debatable whether Yeon is still around.
It's not debatable that he is by far the best player of Stats.

On a general note: it may be better to weigh ratings for activity. Someone who is very good and plays only a game or 2 may be equally valuable to a clan and their image (and CL results) as someone who is clearly above average, but not close to elite, yet playing a lot.

But, in general: really good job on these rankings! It would be interesting to have other players follow the same (or a slightly adapted) methodology and average over the different "judges" as there will always be some judgement calls.
Edge's Clan Rankings: 5/27/2017 01:05:26


Xenophon 
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I came here to defend my clan.

Edited 5/27/2017 01:06:31
Edge's Clan Rankings: 5/27/2017 01:25:48


Onoma94
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Illumninati went from 15th to Not Ranked
AWF went from 18th to Not Ranked


Not really... they both are continued by HYDRA which placed as high as 12th.
Edge's Clan Rankings: 5/27/2017 02:07:49


Aura Guardian 
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@Onoma94 I was not sure how to put that in xD.
Edge's Clan Rankings: 5/27/2017 08:36:25


Timinator • apex 
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I came here to defend my clan.


And now you left it? *scratches head*
Edge's Clan Rankings: 5/27/2017 09:11:52

MIFRAN
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Great work Edge! Thanks for using ur time to do it, couldnt have been easy! Much appreciated.
Only thing i would change, i would have made 11 points just for mod and buns! :)
Edge's Clan Rankings: 5/27/2017 10:07:44


Edge 
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Maybe less players into 10 and therefor more into 9. The way it is now, there were 13 players elite and 10 close to elite. If i ever do it again i probably try to get more opinions on especially these 2 categories. I got some other opinions, all a little bit different to each other, with different players. So that shows me how hard it actually is to agree on those kind of players.

Edited 5/27/2017 10:09:27
Edge's Clan Rankings: 5/27/2017 12:06:26


Naglfar
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concerning my clan I simply say:
his given rankings are not matching reality.

(within the clan)

Edited 5/27/2017 15:26:29
Edge's Clan Rankings: 5/27/2017 12:14:17


Min34 
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28th is pretty decent. I dont think you should be much lower
Edge's Clan Rankings: 5/27/2017 16:41:12


Zack Fair
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Nicely done Edge! Definitely a fun read, and I like the system that you used to evaluate clans. It takes some balls to come out and say what you think of everyone lol. Much appreciated that you did so, I thoroughly enjoyed reading it. Obv I disagree with some things, but also you made some good points that bumped up or downs some clans in my eyes.

@Naglfar, what clans do you think Prussian Grande should be above and why?

Edit: 1 suggestion for the next time we do clan rankings. Maybe we should cap it at the top 10 players per clan. That should give a more consistent evaluation method from large clans to smaller clans.

Edited 5/28/2017 18:44:49
- downvoted post by Semicedevine
Edge's Clan Rankings: 5/28/2017 04:13:14


ViralGoat 
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Semicedevine, wtf?
Edge's Clan Rankings: 5/28/2017 05:54:10


Edge 
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Semice, i don't expect any educative stuff from someone who made fun of 9/11 on a clan page. U just showed that u didn't learn anything.

I doubt u will follow it but it would be appreciated if u don't post this bullshit in one of my threads. Thx.
- downvoted post by Dannybhoy
Edge's Clan Rankings: 5/28/2017 17:13:51


Cloud Strife
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Overall ranking is pretty accurate,certainly a lot more than the individual one. The knowledge of inner workings and talent within the clans seems to decrease further down the list you go.

I'd say this is by far the most comprehensive and accurate clan ranking list to date. Also, it should not be too hard for people to fill the blanks on this "template" table to get their own list which is a handy tool. Furthermore, combining such results as mentioned would give high accuracy to the average list, excluded trolling and too much bias.

Thanks, Edge. A very interesting and useful project.


EDIT : It's also going to be useful to keep track of how things develop in the future. I am sure in 2 years we'll have a very different list. And unlike comparing this with Benji's list, comparison of lists compiled via the same method will make much more sense.

Edited 5/28/2017 17:20:37
Edge's Clan Rankings: 5/28/2017 17:23:13


Aura Guardian 
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I like how its only been a few days and this list is already very much out of date. It goes to show just how fluid the WarLight clan community is. It isn't a bad thing.
Edge's Clan Rankings: 5/28/2017 17:32:35

Slownsteady
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I like how its only been a few days and this list is already very much out of date. It goes to show just how fluid the WarLight clan community is. It isn't a bad thing.


exactly boiz

only like 3 days n suddenly TJC takes da crown. impressive stuff
Edge's Clan Rankings: 5/28/2017 20:57:36


ViralGoat 
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how is the list out of date? I'd like to see what changed in a few days
Edge's Clan Rankings: 5/29/2017 04:12:08


Edge 
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FCC merged with the High Kings. That could put them higher (See what i did there?) and ofc Blitz would have been fallen, due to some important people leaving the clan. GG would have probably taken a small gap between them and the 4th place as well.
Edge's Clan Rankings: 5/30/2017 06:34:35


Rin
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Nice ranking and thank you.
- downvoted post by Жұқтыру
Edge's Clan Rankings: 5/31/2017 19:12:06


FlyingBender
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Only thing i would change, i would have made 11 points just for mod and buns! :)

Agree. You can give 11 points to "insane players" for people who are expert in all format and can fit every template format easily!
The more points and classes, the more the ranking is well built!
Thanks for the effort
Edge's Clan Rankings: 5/31/2017 20:14:10


Edge 
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I think if we just reduce the numbers in the 10 point category and put the non mod/Buns guys into the 9 point category, it might be better.

If someone else or even myself is doing it the next time, it would be probably a good idea to put some experienced players together to agree as a group on the players in these categories, since especially these categories are the most subjective ones.
Edge's Clan Rankings: 6/4/2017 23:34:54


Platinum
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Surprised Outlaws got ranked 5th

Even more surprised nobody has challenged that...
Edge's Clan Rankings: 6/5/2017 01:46:59


LeQuébécois_Benoit
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I currently could see ONE! challenging that (considering their really surprising performance on this year's CL division A) and maybe French because they managed to stay in division A for quite some time already and do well there. I don't really see other clans though that could challenge that 5th place for Outlaws as we are speaking right now.

The somewhat underwhelming performance of Outlaws in Division A of CL of this year (might be due to external factors, probably not related to their skills) surely can make us question if they are indeed the 5th best clan, but other factors like performances on MDL ladder and other ladders and general tend to show Outlaws have a lot of skills. I personally wondered why Outlaws did not do so well in this CL, wondering if they belonged in A at some point, but the explanations I got from Plat made me realize why they are in the position of survival they are right now. One thing is for sure, Outlaws I think can't be ranked (for now) more than 4th (according to Edge's ranking system) and no lower than 7th I would believe.

I could definitely see Turtles arguing about that 4th place under GG though, the later having ran into some hard times in division A of CL8 for probably various reasons (not necessarily only skills).

Considering how ONE! lost a some very good players like Mifran, Hello, Nox and Pardon to other top clans but still manage to pull out such a performance in CL9 is really admirable. If they can stop losing top players like that, they should probably aspire to great things because the way they recruit and train people seems to be really excellent!

Edited 6/5/2017 01:58:57
Edge's Clan Rankings: 6/5/2017 14:16:22


Edge 
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Outlaws were ranked 5th due to the additions of Odin and Widzisz who didn't participate in CL for us. Both have gave us a higher rating. Without them we would have dropped to a 7.6, so that would have put us slightly behind One and on the same rating as the French Community.
Edge's Clan Rankings: 6/24/2017 11:39:10


Onoma94
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CORP looks accurately placed in this (although I'd count Orange instead of HHH because of the latter's inactivity, which propably still yields the same rating).

Funny to see clans like Vikinger and Blitz (who placed high) already off the map.

You took into account only 6 7th Heaven players with about 9 playing for them in CL?

Thanks for doing this! Great job.

Edited 6/24/2017 11:39:44
Edge's Clan Rankings: 6/24/2017 12:09:40


Edge 
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Yeah i can't judge about someone who never proofed himself on a ladder. Win rates can be highly inflated so i excluded those kind of players. I think the 6 7th Heaven players i included are the 6 who are playing for them in C now.
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