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Why tribes are not organisms?: 10/20/2016 12:07:54

[FEL]Chatul
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Some people here believe that tribes are organisms which I strongly disagree with. The idea of a tribe as an organism is to consider a tribe to be a multicellular organism and each individual in the tribe as a cell.

The reason I strongly oppose such an idea is that it ignores several key facts:

1.If a multicellular organism is considered to be analogous to a society then it is a very cruel one. Cells in a multicellular organism are frequently killed by other cells due to them getting infected by viruses, are too old or simply they are simply supposed to die (see https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Programmed_cell_death). A multicellular organism is more cruel than Third Reich, Soviet Union, ISIS and North Korea combined since even such entities do not breed people who are supposed to die at a certain age or kill most senior citizens due to their ages.

2.In a multicellular organism there is not a lot of autonomy for each cell compared to that for an individual in a society. Free citizens/subjects (or even slaves) of the most oppressive regimes still have more freedom compared to a cell which usually can not even move away from other cells.

3.Interests of the society should be the sum of interests of its members. There is no inherent reason why a tribe has to exist other than to protect, organize and help its members. If interests of individuals of a tribe improve when the tribe is disbanded then it should just disband. Nobody should ever die for abstract concepts such as tribes because human lives are certainly worth much more than labels.
Why tribes are not organisms?: 10/20/2016 12:46:28


Lolicon love
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Are you high?
Why tribes are not organisms?: 10/20/2016 12:55:06


Major General Smedley Butler
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Are you high?
Why tribes are not organisms?: 10/20/2016 13:19:07


Major General Smedley Butler
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Are you high?
Why tribes are not organisms?: 10/20/2016 13:39:12


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Are you high?
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Why tribes are not organisms?: 10/21/2016 05:20:33


The Lord
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Tabby is not high, he is just extremely rational as always. We are just too low to understand his wisdom.
Why tribes are not organisms?: 10/21/2016 13:58:04

E Masterpierround
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You've all been asking the wrong question. Here's the right one:

How high are you?
Why tribes are not organisms?: 10/26/2016 16:42:31

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[Downvoted all non-constructive noisy comments.]

There are ways in which tribes are like organisms. There are ways in which they are not. Analogies are pretty much always flawed to some extent. Sometimes they are useful, and sometimes they are not.

If you try to define the analogy more carefully, like "tribes are like organisms in ways X, Y, and Z", then you'll likely find more useful grounds for discussion and debate.
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