Clan League 8 Division B Official Thread: 6/23/2016 10:57:43 |
Memele
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Yes, sorry, I had it well in my notebook but I mistipped it ^^U. I check the results every 2-3 updates to be sure there are not mistakes (there were more lol) but if you found anything wrong feel free to help! New update: guiroma: almosttricky (Sninja) wins to farragut (stahl) Classification (by points):
Clan points Max points Wins Losses Winrate
1º ONE 18 234 6 2 75%
2º Blitz 12 240 4 0 100%
3º 101 9 237 3 1 75%
4º VIW 9 228 3 4 42.85%
5º SNinja 9 225 3 5 37.5%
6º REGL 6 231 2 3 40%
7º Stahl 6 216 2 8 20%
Classification (max points): Blitz, 101, ONE, REGL, VIW, SNinja, Stahl Classification (win rate): Blitz, ONE/101, VIW, REGL, SNinja, Stahl Edit. New format courtesi of kknd ;D
Edited 6/23/2016 16:06:44
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Clan League 8 Division B Official Thread: 6/23/2016 14:47:42 |
KKND
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Thanks Memele
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Clan League 8 Division B Official Thread: 6/23/2016 19:43:11 |
Memele
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New update: Guiroma: metatron (VIW) wins to PJ017 (ONE) B.Islands: memele (REGL) wins to PJ017 (ONE) Classification (by points):
Clan points Max points Wins Losses Winrate
1º ONE 18 228 6 4 60%
2º Blitz 12 240 4 0 100%
3º VIW 12 228 4 4 50%
4º 101 9 237 3 1 75%
5º REGL 9 231 3 3 50%
6º SNinja 9 225 3 5 37.5%
7º Stahl 6 216 2 8 20%
Classification (max points): Blitz, 101,REGL, ONE/VIW, SNinja, Stahl Classification (win rate): Blitz, 101, ONE, VIW/REGL, SNinja, Stahl Edit: Added another finsihed game
Edited 6/23/2016 20:40:23
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Clan League 8 Division B Official Thread: 6/24/2016 15:22:26 |
Memele
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Update: French brawl: PJ017 (ONE) wins to elbee (REGL) who wins to wakanarai (blitz) Classification (by points):
Clan points Max points Wins Losses Winrate
1º ONE 21 228 7 4 63.64%
2º Blitz 12 237 4 1 80%
3º VIW 12 228 4 4 50%
3º REGL 12 228 4 4 50%
5º 101 9 237 3 1 75%
6º SNinja 9 225 3 5 37.5%
7º Stahl 6 216 2 8 20%
Classification (max points): Blitz/101, REGL/ONE/VIW, SNinja, Stahl Classification (win rate): Blitz, 101, ONE, VIW/REGL, SNinja, Stahl First lost for Blitz, so there are no clans with a perfect score anymore. It's still early, but for now seems that the candidates for promotion are ONE, blitz and 101 (they have less points, but less games finished). VIW and REGL are in the middle part, and not so far Sninja. Those three will, probably, be fighting for not being relegated. And stahl is in last place being the 2nd clan with more finished games, that doesn't seems good to them, the boots were harmful. They have time to recover though. For now thing are, more or less, as I though they would go, but as I said, it's still early.
Edited 6/24/2016 15:28:42
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Clan League 8 Division B Official Thread: 6/24/2016 15:44:28 |
TeamGuns
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Idk if it's very informative to use points earned at this stage to make a ranking, for example 101st is 5th but has a 3-1 record behind two clans that are 4-4.
I think that we won't be able to see a good picture of the ranking before every clan has 20-25 games completed.
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Clan League 8 Division B Official Thread: 6/24/2016 17:12:31 |
Memele
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That's why I write the max.points and win rate classifications too. In fact, my comments took this into account more than the points.
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Clan League 8 Division B Official Thread: 6/24/2016 22:14:27 |
Waka
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The stream has finished and the upload to youtube has been completed so all of you can watch it back with twitch chat on screen as well. youtube vod: https://youtu.be/NznJwKPcQcEI'll be adding time stamps later on but i'm currently too tired for that. If someone else likes to help me out with that it would be appreciated (something like 10 minutes in the stream really starts)
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Clan League 8 Division B Official Thread: 6/25/2016 12:34:10 |
Memele
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Update: ME: Awol (VIW) defeated Grizzlis (ONE) Almosttricky (Sninja) defeated platinum (101). Fun fact: both of them are in a div A clan. Greece: awesomeguy (VIW) defeated paniagotis (101) Classification (by points):
Clan points Max points Wins Losses Winrate
1º ONE 21 225 7 5 58.33%
2º VIW 18 228 6 4 60%
3º Blitz 12 237 4 1 80%
4º REGL 12 228 4 4 50%
5º SNinja 12 225 4 5 44.44%
6º 101 9 231 3 3 50%
7º Stahl 6 216 2 8 20%
Classification (max points): Blitz, 101, REGL/VIW, ONE/SNinja, Stahl Classification (win rate): Blitz, VIW, ONE, 101/REGL, SNinja, Stahl Edit: I'm thinking that maybe it would be better to change the main classification to "win rate". I would like to hear opinions :)
Edited 6/25/2016 12:47:06
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Clan League 8 Division B Official Thread: 6/25/2016 15:09:15 |
Don [ Ω ]
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i think showing the leaderboard by points won, like it is now is the best way to show the scoreboard. You have all the additional information - max points - win/losses - winrate added...
If i understood your question right :-)
Edited 6/25/2016 15:12:36
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Clan League 8 Division B Official Thread: 6/25/2016 19:27:15 |
knyte
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Alternative, here's another method-
1. Reweight for opponent pool so far: Get the average (mean) success rate (points won / points contested) against all other clans for each clan, using 50% or a calculation based on overall success rates for clans that have not yet faced each other
2. Reweight for pace of play: Get the total # of points contested so far, split them evenly between clans, and then multiply by the success rate
You can just rank the clans by the new points. You could also do this without reweighting the success rate and just adjusting for the pace of play so clans that compete faster than others won't be at an advantage.
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Clan League 8 Division B Official Thread: 6/25/2016 22:43:34 |
Memele
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I don't want to add new variable, more work to do :P But the success rate againts each clan...I could use it to do a review time to time, when this is more advanced.
By the way, if I understood you right, your nº 2 method is exactly the same as the win rate ^^U
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Clan League 8 Division B Official Thread: 6/25/2016 23:02:27 |
l4v.r0v
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It is, that's why I don't use them separately. I already have a sheet that does this, if you're willing to make minor edits and log each game individually.
Success rate also tends to strongly favor or strongly disfavor clans that have played the fewest games, so that's why I make the first adjustment.
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Clan League 8 Division B Official Thread: 6/26/2016 02:32:00 |
ZhugeLiang
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Feel free to add updates yourself if you think you can better them, no one is stopping you ;)
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Clan League 8 Division B Official Thread: 6/26/2016 09:13:01 |
l4v.r0v
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Not quite. Especially while the season's still progressing, it's also worthwhile to have some idea of strength of schedule. A 7-0 start means different things if 4 of those games were against DARKLORDS or against Apex. You don't need any complex adjustments to account for that either.
It's kind of like basketball or any other professional sport. You can tell a lot of what a player's or team's performance was like based on just a few simple stats like points, points allowed, shooting percentage. But those still miss some key elements, and that's why we also track things like pace, rebounds, assists, +/-, eFG%, ORB vs. DRB, steals, blocks, turnovers and generate aggregated stats like strength of schedule, Offensive and Defensive Rating or even Elo/wackier systems like CARM-ELO. That's all so you can properly extract what you learned from a set of performances in a way that gives you enough insight to really apply it to a set of future performances and also figure out- for example- how bad a loss or loss streak is and how well a team's actually doing at any given moment. In CL, since teams tend to sometimes cluster within +/- 5% of each other for win rates, it's pretty worthwhile to figure out which of these identical-looking win rates indicates a superior performance.
Edited 6/26/2016 09:20:18
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Clan League 8 Division B Official Thread: 6/26/2016 13:31:07 |
Memele
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Update: ME: kram (stahl) defeated almostricky (Sninja) french: PJ017 (ONE) defeated wakanarai (Blitz) T.Map: Markus (101) defeated Min (REGL) Classification (by points):
Clan points Max points Wins Losses Winrate
1º ONE 24 225 8 5 61.54%
2º VIW 18 228 6 4 60%
3º Blitz 12 234 4 2 66.67%
4º 101 12 231 4 3 57.14%
5º REGL 12 225 4 5 44.44%
6º SNinja 12 222 4 6 40%
7º Stahl 9 216 2 8 27.27%
Classification (max points): Blitz, 101, VIW, REGL/ONE, SNinja, Stahl Classification (win rate): Blitz, ONE, VIW, 101, REGL, SNinja, Stahl @Tac(ky)tical Ok, I will edit the first post
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Clan League 8 Division B Official Thread: 6/26/2016 21:34:13 |
Memele
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Update: B.Islands: memele (REGL) defeated Txomin (Sninja). He was booted (but I think I had advantadge), let's hope it's only a game and the boots don't spread. For now Battle islands is the tournament with more finished games. Classification (by points):
Clan points Max points Wins Losses Winrate
1º ONE 24 225 8 5 61.54%
2º VIW 18 228 6 4 60%
3º REGL 15 225 5 5 50%
4º Blitz 12 234 4 2 66.67%
5º 101 12 231 4 3 57.14%
6º SNinja 12 219 4 7 36.36%
7º Stahl 9 216 2 8 27.27%
Classification (max points): Blitz, 101, VIW, REGL/ONE, SNinja, Stahl Classification (win rate): Blitz, ONE, VIW, 101, REGL, SNinja, Stahl
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