I think RA remanufacture maps to improve it and not just in visuals but in strategic value too. His "stolen" Europe and Medium Earth maps are admittedly better looking and I think with the balancing modifications it is more strategic as well, overall not a genuine work but better than the original.

In his painted maps maybe more the artwork than the strategy but Petrograd or Vietnam definetly well-balanced and playable, so I dont believe that he dont know what are needed for a good map.

Its a fault to forget giving credit to mapmakers for using their maps but its not detract from the visual or strategic value of his maps.

@Urfang - first of all I think that you cant write that RA "forgot" about giving credits. He did the same thing in the past (with a great forum turmoil as a consequence of that previous thievery) and now we should believe that he "forgot" again? He did this on purpose becuse he is a THIEF.
The only difference is that now he has turned the original map upside down to make it less obvious.

Edited 5/25/2016 09:54:07

Interesting noone has said to Fizzer that he is a thief because he used Troll's Europe like RA who not just used but completely redraw from both visual and strategic view though he would be a thief?

Unless RA can provide some other source to argue both his and NinjaNic's maps are based upon the same thing, and I don't think he can, this is blatant plagiarism. I mean the territory shapes and general outline are uncanny. I can see exactly where he has divided NinjaNic's territories, or merged two together, or simply removed them altogether.

Granted, the result is a different map but to not give any credit or thanks to NinjaNic is just a dick move. And the rotating of the map by 180 is just another clear measure RA has taken to try hide/disguise that it's not his own work lol. Where's the harm if he'd just asked permission or if not that, then he'd at least given a special thanks to NinjaNic for inspiration.

No real harm done at the end of the day, but from that other thread, I reckon RA just doesn't give a shit if time and again he gets away with it. Guess we have no choice but to just let RA redesign every map on warlight and take credit for them all if Fizzer won't even let us even lower the rating when he does...

I'll be lowering my rating to half what it'd otherwise get from me since half the credit goes to NinjaNic who RA failed to mention, and I'll happily rate it higher again once RA learns some common decency. I hope FIzzer agrees that's fair and won't intervene.

I think that the main problem of RA is that he is not smart enough to create a map that has strategic/tactic valors. His maps are good looking, but nothing special when it comes to gameplay. He is a decent painter but not an architect.

That is why he needs to STEAL designs from other players...

it is hard to concede good values to a person you dislike. Your statement only shows your lack for an objective analysis. The fact that Ra won the 2v2 ladder pretty much refutes your attestation. He also made both kinds of maps - those, that focus on art and others that are meant to be used for competitive games (these maps are very well made and good looking,too).

I got to know Ra a little bit better in the last months, where we started a map project together. He is a smart guy with little interest for social bargains, which doesnt mean he is stupid or unreasonable. I guess he dont care much for a proper citation or giving credits within warlight. He makes the maps for fun and to improve the game. Some of the overall best maps are made by him, this is at least something you could appreciate.

Im sure he would give Nic credits if you ask him personally (not in the forum - without the lynch mob in the background) and beyond that Im sure he would even apologize. I havent recognized malice within his behaviour, rather an immature conception of social standards.

And none of maps deserve false rating because a bad opinion about its maker.

NinjaNic is right... not good!

The amount of plagiarism can be debated, but the presence of it cannot be. Stealing one line from a book without citing it IS enough to be plagiarism. Stop making excuses for him.

In the case of the europe one, yes it is real world vs fictional. But, he traced Fridges map exactly.

Edited 5/25/2016 16:38:40

Using Europe as comparison is bad though, as this map is completely fictional and self-drawn from Nic? unless i'm wrong and he used a reference i didn't manage to find within 2 min of google.

Atlantis usually gets portrayed as kinda a ring with land masses and water.

- http://ming-tang.org/wp-content/uploads/2015/09/Atlantis.jpg
- http://www.ancient-code.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/01/atlantis.jpg

What is a bit surprising is that RAs map isn't more symmetrical which would follow the Atlantis pattern more. In terms of gameplay both maps should play out quite different with Ninja Nic's map being a bit more open. Bot maps followed an interesting and sound thought process to make the maps playable while I find Ninja Nic's map more creative and more out of the box. Every map maker probably looks for inspiration from other maps and it's certainly possible that RA found Ninja Nic's map interesting.

Edited 5/25/2016 17:50:40

RA iz such a gud trol lul

Stop making excuses for him.

you are right Chris, why the heck should we deescalate here, lets better doom this prick! =D Btw. have you ever thought about plagiarism in mathematics? =)

RA's map is better. I'll make sure to play his map now.

Man, I hope he doesn't copy one of my maps next...

*whispers in ear*

OH! He only copies good maps! I guess I'm safe then!

But yeah, seriously dick move. We need to add a "report" button on maps now, I guess.

This is funny af.
That does seem very crooked.
Wouldn't be the first time.
RA is a bastard.
Yeah he stole europe map. Then when people tanked the rating on it fizzer removed the votes.
Sad. Back to his roots.
RA deserved the bad ratings on the map.
I see two completely different maps.
I think that the main problem of RA is that he is not smart enough.
I think RA remanufacture maps to improve it and not just in visuals but in strategic value too.
RA "forgot" about giving credits. 
RA just doesn't give a shit and again he gets away with it.
Stop making excuses for him.
RA iz such a gud trol lul.
Man, I hope he doesn't copy one of my maps next...
Sue him.
Blacklist RA.
As your local warlight undertaker,I can dispose of his body when I am done with it.
(I can make it look like an accident...)
What? The disposing of the body looking like an accident? Like it was accidentally dropped somewhere. haahah
That was really shitty of him.
Rated Ra 1.
RA, it was so pathetic.
RA has been given "Trophy: Create a beautiful map". I propose to take it back from him as a punishment for thivery.
I'm RA's number 1 fan but I do respect you also.
Shame on you for standing up for RA.
Your map was good enough to stimulate Ra to make a similar one this is eventually an appreciation. 
..suspending RA from Warlight.
Asshole exposed finally.
The life struggle is real.
He could just be on RA's side, or RA's alt.
You lost, everybody hates you.
RA doesn't have deletion powers.
Just report RA.
Congratulations Ra - no sense of guilt, no honor. All you do is gaming the system.. 
RA has also violated the ToS.
What happened to XS.
RA is doing this and we all want to know why.
I encourage others not to vote for RA's maps.
Map of the week was a stolen map, gg Fizzer.
lol RA sucks.
I heard there was a falling out because of RA.
Why did you invite ra? Because hes russian and makes good maps?
Ra doesnt replace x.
I think a 1v1 challenge between dead piggy and Ra would be fun.
Calling Ra a top 100 player seems very generous.
Ra is demonstrably good enough for 20.
He is Russian so I'm assuming an alt of RA?
RA's map is better.
I think RA went insane :/
He probably already was.

Edited 6/14/2016 22:57:46

New map is underway.
Fasten your seatbelts and be ready.

And I'm just sitting here, watching the drama scroll before my eyes xD

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